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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
Officers
Customs and Courtesies
Army
Saluting
AR 600-25
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Posted 12 y ago
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1) Is a 1st LT senior to a 2nd LT? Yes. 2) Should the 2nd LT salute the 1st LT? See question #1.
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Absolutely not! The level of mentorship happening between 1LT's to 2LT's is beyond priceless, and is essential to development as a successful Commissioned Officer. The Army as a culture is still very new 2LTs. They need to have completely open, informal, and honest relationships among themselves (FIRST), heavy personal mentorship from 1LT's (SECOND), and continuously coaching from Company Commanders (THIRD). That is considering we are still in the business of making "American Storm Troopers". Let the LT Mafia live...
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In the Navy/Marine Corps team we salute all officers period. No matter if they are senior or junior, though the junior should initiate it when possible. Also all salutes are required to be returned, I never understood some peoples issues with the saluting thing, it is a sign of respect maybe not to the individual but the their position within the overall organization.
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Under formal circumstances, yes. Otherwise no.
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I guess the issue is that really that aren't that senior. There isn't a duty position for just a 1LT. They both can be the same duty position. In theory you could have a 1LT as a platoon leader and a 2LT as an XO.
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If a 2/LT will not salute a 1/LT how can we expect enlisted personel and NCOs to salute? Officers need to lead from the front and fully comply to the traditions of the service. There is no excuse to not do so. Everyone also needs to salute an MOH recipient irrespective of their grade. Traditions of the service must be followed to their fullest, otherwise we are just a mob.
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You are saluting and respecting the rank of the person. You may think he/she is a genuine POS as a person, but that changes nothing. He/she has the rank above you and the authority and responsibility that goes with it.
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