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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
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I am an Air Force Vet, during my time in the service I noticed more 1lt saluting 2lt than the other way around. I ask my units first lieutenent why and he said, 'They are still learning.
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By my experience (I'm using paygrades because I'm Navy to avoid confusion) I've only observed salutes between officers when theres a two paygrade difference in rank, ie O1 salutes O3 and above, O2 Salutes O3 on up. I've always understood a more "relaxed" relationship between O1 and O2.
Now as for warrants I've always been confused. By law and I quote," Warrant officers fall with but behind 2nd Lieutenants and Ensigns." My interpretation of that is that Warrants and O1's ae virtually equal. I don't really see a need to exchange salutes between them. Also given the parameters given in that law do or why do warrants salute among themselves? Technically all warrants fall with but behind O1's so aren't all warrants technically equals?
Your thoughts please gentlemen.
Now as for warrants I've always been confused. By law and I quote," Warrant officers fall with but behind 2nd Lieutenants and Ensigns." My interpretation of that is that Warrants and O1's ae virtually equal. I don't really see a need to exchange salutes between them. Also given the parameters given in that law do or why do warrants salute among themselves? Technically all warrants fall with but behind O1's so aren't all warrants technically equals?
Your thoughts please gentlemen.
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Certainly a 2nd LT should salute it is definitely out of respect for the rank. The same as a CMS should salute the 2nd LT you ar saluting the rank not the experience. If you expect a junior enlisted to salute out of respect all should follow the same protocol
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Should a Lieutenant Colonel salute a full bird Colonel? Yes.
Should a Lieutenant General (3 star) salute a General (4 star) ? Yes.
Should a 2nd Lieutenant salute a 1st Lieutenant? Yes.
Should a Lieutenant General (3 star) salute a General (4 star) ? Yes.
Should a 2nd Lieutenant salute a 1st Lieutenant? Yes.
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Saluting should not be a problem. A salute is a mutual gesture of respect with the junior person only initiating it. It should not be considered a gesture of subservience. I remember the story of a general seeing a serviceman saluting over and over as a punishment to a senior officer. When questioned the senior officer said the serviceman did not salute him as he should. The general stopped this immediately as the senior officer was not returning the salutes and was told to do so. The General was Lewis "Chesty" Puller of the Marine Corps and he respected all Marines from top to bottom.
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