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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
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Although per regulations a 2d Lt is supposed to salute a 1Lt, I don’t see it as something that needs to be done. One reason I think this is for tasking deployments a 2d Lt and 1Lt in the USAF is considered as ‘one rank’ for the one up one down rule. Also culturally it’s rarely done, which means is it really a custom? I don’t expect any butterbars to salute me and it honestly surprises me when one does. The 1Lts ahead of me has the same sentiment. Maybe I’m wrong but to me an Lt is an Lt.
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I think I may have already responded to this. It might not be totally apropos, but. I was a National Guard 1LT, having been on active duty for a two year tour, including a year in Korea, 2nd I/D. I was at the nine month Advance Course and everybody in my section, about 30 were captains, except me. We were maybe three months into the course. One of the required things every day was to check the your mail box. So a group of us are walking back to Snow Hall with our mail, talking and joking and I hear a "Where's your salute, lieutenant?" So I see a captain in a class behind us by at least one other glowering right at me. So I pop him one. My section mates? "What the hell is wrong with him?" It never happened again.
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I just came here to say that it's amazing that this post is still active after 4 years of being the #1 RP meme. The internet points CPT (Join to see) has gotten out of this thing probably sustains his RP rank all by themselves.
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CPT (Join to see)
I am still here and still a LT. I will be a CPT this year, finally. I transitioned back to the regular Army and it reset my time frame to promote but now I am back on track.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
CPT (Join to see) - When I joined RP, you were a SSG if I remember correctly. Glad to see you're still going!
And just think! As a CO, you'll be able to force your 2LTs to salute the 1LTs. Such power!
And just think! As a CO, you'll be able to force your 2LTs to salute the 1LTs. Such power!
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Yes. The rule I always applied with my fellow Lts was was this, “if it’s just us, I don’t care. If there are enlisted or higher ranking officers around, you better do it because it’s the right thing to do.”
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Of course. Always salute out of respect for the rank. If the more senior person asks for you not to salute them, then respect their choice. It's as simple as that.
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All soldiers should accept the fact that we should always render the salute to our seniors by rank not age, Unless while in a combat or hazard zone that would identify the leader for the enemy =, Some NCOs have been heard to say "I have more time in grade that that (officer) has in life or service, It is our responsibility as leaders to set the example and show our subordinates and on occasion our coworkers that we are not above the regulations set forth. As a 1SG I always saluted ALL officers as a show of respect to the grade and not necessarily the individual wearing it.
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1SG (Join to see)
So he/she deserves the salute, I salute the grade not the necessarily the individual holding it
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This should not be a question. They say there are no dumb questions but since when is doing what is right when nobody is looking something up for discussion? Every board I ever appeared in included, the question of, “ define discipline”. The answer was always the same, “doing what’s right when nobody is looking”
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