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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
Officers
Customs and Courtesies
Army
Saluting
AR 600-25
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It boils down to intent being lost in the wording of the regulation. LT is a LT!
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I can't believe I am still getting emails about this topic. Upvote this post if you think it's time to just let it go and move onto real issues. Is there any way to lock this thread so that we don't have to poison our eyes any longer by reading 900 more people posting generally in agreement? We get it, everyone thinks 2LTs should salute 1LTs. Downvote if you think this is a serious discipline issue and needs to be readdressed in a regulation update. Moving on to topics that actually affect me...
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<p>Single bars don't salute other single bars. -Unwritten Rules Handbook</p><p> </p><p>By the time you do pull out that salute, you'll be a 1stLt.</p>
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This thread is ludicrous. Do the regs say you should? Yes. Do you ALWAYS? No. I worked in the JOC at Bagram. As a SGT, if I stood at attention every time I spoke to an officer, or at parade rest for every senior NCO, zero work would be completed.
There's a time and place for everything. If you need to set an example in front of a group of privates, do it. If not, get the job done.
For all you folks "sticking to the regs" no matter what, enjoy the garrison life, you were designed for it. I did a couple years (served 02-07) of garrison life and it was the mentality of the leadership from the 90's that solidified my decision to separate.
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1LT Nick Kidwell
The whole question is only applicable in garrison anyway.
If people are demanding salutes on deployment to a hostile fire zone, they are part of the problem.
If people are demanding salutes on deployment to a hostile fire zone, they are part of the problem.
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Sgt Lonnie Rush
I would always salute and point at them just to make sure the sniper hit the right guy. LOL
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Military customs and courtesies exist for a reason and should be followed. I have seen both ends of the spectrum, officers and enlisted walking the other way to purposely avoid saluting. You may not have to respect the person, but always respect the rank and salute accordingly. Doing so not only demonstrates proper military decorum, but also indirectly mentors those who are watching.
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I am currently a 2LT and have run into this problem because I do salute a 1LT when we meet and then they look at me funny. I do it out of respect
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Absolutely. As a SSG I expected my SGT's to stand at parade rest when speaking to me and the same goes for myself when speaking to a SFC. Of course the moment my SGT's showed this respect I would immediately tell them to "relax". If they didn't show this gesture of respect the conversation would immediately turn in a different direction.
I don't see how this is any different for expecting a 2LT to show some respect to a 1LT. Am I missing something here?
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SSG Joshua Chancey
MAJ,
I see your point that these two are very close in rank. I assume you would expect different as the Officer Ranks progress. For example a CPT should render a salute to a MAJ much the same for a MAJ to a COL. Would you agree?
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Cpl (Join to see)
SSG , MAJ If i was a 2lt and a1lt came up to me I would render a salute. It is a Military Courtesy. even though the paygrade is O1 and O2 respectively
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Cpl (Join to see)
With all do respect it is a higher rank sir , so I would salute you may not agree with me. it makes sense to me that Officers should be held to a higher standard, because they make higher ranking decisions opposed to NCO's . I do not care if there it's a automatic promotion after 18 months. In my oppinion it is a matter of respect. good order of discipline
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Like you said Sir, per REGULATION. If a regulation states that you must do so to show the correct customs and courtesies, then that is how the ball rolls. I have been in instances where I began to salute, but the senior member (officer) has told me "It's all good", or "Carry on". This is the only time you should see someone not salute or not complete the action. Otherwise, they earned that rank through their own sweat, so they should be respected for it. If not out of respect, then out of requirement of regulation. There are tiers in the enlisted force structure (i.e. Airman Tier, NCO Tier, etc.), However, this does not apply to officer force structure because each rank is different and unique unto itself.
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