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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
Officers
Customs and Courtesies
Army
Saluting
AR 600-25
Edited 11 y ago
Posted 12 y ago
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A second lieutenant should only salute a first lieutenant if the 1LT is buying the beer.
But seriously, whatever the reg says.
But seriously, whatever the reg says.
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Sure. As a Chaplain, some soldiers thought they weren't required to salute me, and a few got chewed-out by NCOs who observed their failure to render military courtesy. When as a 2LT I saluted a 1LT I felt that the 1LT was obligingly returning the salute but I could sense some bemusement.
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I worked in the TOC where brass was all over. I only saw officers saluting the actual commanders, never each other. And if a higher ranking officer entered we all just called "attention" to the building (Like when my brigade commander entered the battalion building) This also applied when ordered to report for formal hearing (just meeting in the office was taken casually). The officers were casual majority of the time. We just saw each other as people. If they kept saluting each other nothing would ever get done.
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I believe that everyone, including 4 star Generals are to salute anyone who has received the Medal of Honor.
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I remembered this post when this actually happened to me as a 1LT. I was at Walter Reed National Medical Center, and was saluted by an AF and Army 2LT. Then again, it’s AMEDD and I was also saluted by an O-5 USN medical officer and wanted to respond with: “no, that’s not how it works.”
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This is a joke right? When did we decide it's OK to choose whom to salute? All officers will be saluted except in a combat zone.... the junior shall salute the senior. Its not a discussion. It's the way it is.
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I asked this same question when I first started. I will never forget my Commander's response.
Virtue among Lts is like virtue among whores. (I still wasn't sure if I should salute or not.
Virtue among Lts is like virtue among whores. (I still wasn't sure if I should salute or not.
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I can appreciate the senior enlisted folks upholding regs, but there comes a time when regs get in the way. For the same reason that I and all my peers go to a half parade rest for our Sergeant Major, I don't expect a 2LT to defer to me. Common sense should win out over regs when inforcing regs is just an ego check.
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There is how ever an exception: if the officer can’t return the slute it is acceptable to great with a good morning or afternoon. This occurred with me when I was stationed at Camp LeJune and was marching a platoon and passed an officer that had his hands full and as I marched past I greeted him with a good morning. He didn’t know the rule and called the company office to report this matter to the CO and was told l was correct in not saluting him.
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