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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
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AR 600-25
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Did you even read anything beyond the headline? I'll help you.
"I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?" Do you not understand?
"I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?" Do you not understand?
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SPC Chris Ison
I do not care what you reasoning is for asking this question. This is not the only STUPID question I have seen on this forum.
We did not have the internet 20 years ago, how do you think officers and NCO's figured out how to do their jobs?
You know though, as i write this i realize now just how fucking ignorant most leaders are; mostly because they did not pay attention during leaderships school(s), I know because they teach you these things, and you should have learned this in ROTC, the Academy, or OCS.
It is one thing to come here and share a story of how you as a new officer, or NCO made a mistake in something, or to tell who you dealt with a particularly difficult soldier.
It is another thing to come here and ask basic shit that every private knows out of Basic Training.
Are Lt. Colonels, and Colonels equivalent?
The whole reason you came here, is because you knew something was wrong, you felt it in your gut, so instead of coming here and asking for help; Man the fuck up, exert your authority, and DO SOMETHING.
DO NOT BE AFRAID TO LEAD.
We did not have the internet 20 years ago, how do you think officers and NCO's figured out how to do their jobs?
You know though, as i write this i realize now just how fucking ignorant most leaders are; mostly because they did not pay attention during leaderships school(s), I know because they teach you these things, and you should have learned this in ROTC, the Academy, or OCS.
It is one thing to come here and share a story of how you as a new officer, or NCO made a mistake in something, or to tell who you dealt with a particularly difficult soldier.
It is another thing to come here and ask basic shit that every private knows out of Basic Training.
Are Lt. Colonels, and Colonels equivalent?
The whole reason you came here, is because you knew something was wrong, you felt it in your gut, so instead of coming here and asking for help; Man the fuck up, exert your authority, and DO SOMETHING.
DO NOT BE AFRAID TO LEAD.
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Yes, you should salute. It's required by rank and it shows respect to the uniform.
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Respect should be honored irregardless of whether you are a First or Second LT. I also believe if when you are out of uniform and you recognize an officer in uniform, respectfully saluting is not manadatory but if you do should be equally recognized by that officer...
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WTF!!!!!!!! From a Private to CSM and based on AR 600-25 saluting an officer is required regardless , from a 2Lt to a general. Salutes are not required to be rendered or returned when the senior or subordinate, or both are:
1. In civilian attire.
2. Engaged in routine work if the salute would interfere.
3. Carrying articles with both hands
4. Working as a member of a detail
5. Engaged in sports
6. Social functions where saluting would present a safety hazard.
7. In public places such as theaters, churches, and in public conveyances.
8. In the ranks of a formation
When do you salute inside a building?
1. When reporting to your commander
2. When reporting to a pay officer
3. When reporting to a military board
4. At an indoor ceremony
5. At sentry duty indoors
Can you salute as a prisoner?
No, you have lost the right to salute
4-6. Military courtesy is not a one-way street. Enlisted personnel are expected to be courteous to officers and likewise officers are expected to return the courtesy. Mutual respect is a vital part of military courtesy. In the final analysis, military courtesy is the respect shown to each other by members of the same profession. Some of the Army's more common courtesies include rendering the hand salute, standing at attention or parade rest, or even addressing others by their rank.
4-7. The salute is not simply an honor exchanged. It is a privileged gesture of respect and trust among soldiers. Remember the salute is not only prescribed by regulation but is also recognition of each other's commitment, abilities, and professionalism.
4-9. The salute is widely misunderstood outside the military. Some consider it to be a gesture of servility since the junior extends a salute to the senior, but we know that it is quite the opposite. The salute is an expression that recognizes each other as a member of the profession of arms; that they have made a personal commitment of self-sacrifice to preserve our way of life. The fact that the junior extends the greeting first is merely a point of etiquette-a salute extended or returned makes the same statement.
4-13. All soldiers in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled (by grade) to a salute except when it is inappropriate or impractical (in public conveyances such as planes and buses, in public places such as inside theaters, or when driving a vehicle).
4-16. Military courtesy shows respect and reflects self-discipline. Consistent and proper military courtesy is an indicator of unit discipline, as well. Soldiers demonstrate courtesy in the way we address officers or NCOs of superior rank.
Sincerely, Jose A. Hernandez, SFC, USAR, Retired 39 years of Proud Military Service
Vietnam and Operation Iraqi Freedom Veteran
1. In civilian attire.
2. Engaged in routine work if the salute would interfere.
3. Carrying articles with both hands
4. Working as a member of a detail
5. Engaged in sports
6. Social functions where saluting would present a safety hazard.
7. In public places such as theaters, churches, and in public conveyances.
8. In the ranks of a formation
When do you salute inside a building?
1. When reporting to your commander
2. When reporting to a pay officer
3. When reporting to a military board
4. At an indoor ceremony
5. At sentry duty indoors
Can you salute as a prisoner?
No, you have lost the right to salute
4-6. Military courtesy is not a one-way street. Enlisted personnel are expected to be courteous to officers and likewise officers are expected to return the courtesy. Mutual respect is a vital part of military courtesy. In the final analysis, military courtesy is the respect shown to each other by members of the same profession. Some of the Army's more common courtesies include rendering the hand salute, standing at attention or parade rest, or even addressing others by their rank.
4-7. The salute is not simply an honor exchanged. It is a privileged gesture of respect and trust among soldiers. Remember the salute is not only prescribed by regulation but is also recognition of each other's commitment, abilities, and professionalism.
4-9. The salute is widely misunderstood outside the military. Some consider it to be a gesture of servility since the junior extends a salute to the senior, but we know that it is quite the opposite. The salute is an expression that recognizes each other as a member of the profession of arms; that they have made a personal commitment of self-sacrifice to preserve our way of life. The fact that the junior extends the greeting first is merely a point of etiquette-a salute extended or returned makes the same statement.
4-13. All soldiers in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled (by grade) to a salute except when it is inappropriate or impractical (in public conveyances such as planes and buses, in public places such as inside theaters, or when driving a vehicle).
4-16. Military courtesy shows respect and reflects self-discipline. Consistent and proper military courtesy is an indicator of unit discipline, as well. Soldiers demonstrate courtesy in the way we address officers or NCOs of superior rank.
Sincerely, Jose A. Hernandez, SFC, USAR, Retired 39 years of Proud Military Service
Vietnam and Operation Iraqi Freedom Veteran
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A salute is earned if you are below such rank, please give it as protocol and respect
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1sLT paid his dues to earn the rank and deserves to be saluted in uniform. No exceptions except when to do so could get him snipered.
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