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My PSG, Several SLs and an RTO got verbally abused by the 1SG when CSM walked into our CP, and no one called "At Ease." I was sitting in my office (also in the CP), and my PSG was under the impression "At Ease" was not required, as a Commissioned Officer was already in the room. Regardless, all of the Soldiers stood up and went to Parade Rest before addressing the CSM. After CSM left, 1SG let them have it before I kindly stepped in and reminded him privately that the Soldiers were merely doing what the regulations required and meant no disrespect. It seems all units are different when it comes to how much they worship/don't their senior leaders. It would be a lot simpler if we all just followed customs and courtesies per regulations.
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CPL Adam Stark
If people are actually working and a lesser rank walks in. That formality is ridiculous. Respect lost for top.
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CSM (Join to see)
The CSM was wrong. Your PSG was correct. The officers in the room should have remained seated. The NCOs should have stood up. What you saw was a Sergeant Major and a First Sergeant that did not know proper protocol. This is much like a BDE CSM I knew who though when he walked into the DFAC the headcount had to call "At Ease". I told him he was crazy because that was ONLY supposed to be done when an officer (generally a Field Grade Officer) enters the DFAC. He wanted to argue the point, but I showed him he was wrong.
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LTC (Join to see)
If you are actively engaged (read: working) and there is a commissioned officer present, it is not common sense to stop work and stand "at ease" every time a SNCO enters the room/building. render due respect if you are engaged, but to stop work just to "kiss the ring" is ridiculous. Maybe I'm not big enough on custom and courtesy, but it has always bugged me when gainfully employed Soldiers stop work just to stand at attention when I enter. I make it a point to announce "entering at ease" or a very quick "as you were" when entering/exiting.
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SPC Michael Crosby
I had a similar situation my last duty assignment almost 20 years ago. I was the clerk for the S-4 (a captain) and the battalion CSM walked in and no one called at ease. When she saw him, she immediately called at ease. After CSM left, she told us that while regulations didn't require it, she did so out of respect and expected us to do so in the future.
By the way. When I was in, the regulations stated that you should not call attention or at ease when a ranking officer or NCO enters an office environment. When I worked at the post welcome Center in ID cards, a newly promoted 1 star came into to get his new ID card and tags, I called attention, no one moved. I was advised by my NCO after that it wasn't necessary to call attention because we were in an office.
By the way. When I was in, the regulations stated that you should not call attention or at ease when a ranking officer or NCO enters an office environment. When I worked at the post welcome Center in ID cards, a newly promoted 1 star came into to get his new ID card and tags, I called attention, no one moved. I was advised by my NCO after that it wasn't necessary to call attention because we were in an office.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
So Brian, how's Hong Kong these days? I hear the rubber dog sh!t's a big seller out there!
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I do not understand why this is being discussed.............Military regulatuions stand.
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The LT out-ranks them, and they should stand at attention until told to stand at ease by the LT (or other commissioned officer)...
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Fort Benning as a 2LT in 2005. I was in the MP station around 0700 after PT, some SGM comes in and the PVT at the desk yells "at ease". I just keep going about my business and SGM starts to jump my shit. I just smiled and said, "Last time I checked, SGM, Officers do not stand at ease for NCOs". SGM chewed PVT Snuffy a new one for "at easing" the room when there was an officer present.
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LTC (Join to see)
LTC (Join to see) I never understood why some do that even at company when BN CSM comes in and their Company Commander is there.
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1SG Billye Jackson
All but one CSM I worked with would have don the Same Thing to Pvt Suiffy. After I got through with hem.
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