Posted on May 28, 2014
Should Army and Marines (or components of) consolidate?
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Think objectively. Traditions, camaraderie aside. Both are somewhat similarly more combat-oriented than USN or USAF. Answer practically without putting down either one of them.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
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Having been in both, the Army has far too much bureaucracy to be compared to the Marines, they are atrocious at marksmanship training, compartalize far too much (I was genuinely shocked when I was told that nobody in the platoon needs to know how to call for fire because we will have FOs attached if we needed fire support) and they don’t have fast movers. The Marine Corps would never take something that had to be earned through gallons of sweat, weeks of misery, and genuine suffering and give it to everyone to make the REMFs feel better like the Army did with the black beret.
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Yes they all the same it would improve the Marine corps by learning from the best soldiers in the world.
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Marines don't earn the our beloved Eagle Globe and Anchor because we want to be in the ARMY. We are a different bread. Even those of us living the POG life. Even as junior Marines it makes our blood boil to see a young soldier talking buddy buddy with his/her superiors. Seeing countless soldiers carry their riffles by the rear site assembly (its no longer an issue with acogs) makes us want to punch a baby in the face. IF you want to disband the ARMY go ahead and do that. But don't compromise the Marine Corps.
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Only if the Army can come up the Corp standards .and amphipious training and Marines trained in airborne
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I can understand the savings involved in combining Army and Marines, but that would be the only advantage.
Let's take North Korea as an example. The Marines are a department of the Navy, so they have a way to get transported in mass to the western coast, while at the same time, our Army could be moving by land, from South Korea, or China, successfully dividing the North's army into 2 or more fronts to fight us.
Keep in mind, the Navy launching missiles from the ocean, and Air Force dropping bombs from above, a full on war would be over in a week.
Combining the branches would be a mistake. The friendly rivalries between each branch, motivates each of us to do our best.
Let's take North Korea as an example. The Marines are a department of the Navy, so they have a way to get transported in mass to the western coast, while at the same time, our Army could be moving by land, from South Korea, or China, successfully dividing the North's army into 2 or more fronts to fight us.
Keep in mind, the Navy launching missiles from the ocean, and Air Force dropping bombs from above, a full on war would be over in a week.
Combining the branches would be a mistake. The friendly rivalries between each branch, motivates each of us to do our best.
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Because of global warming; which will add much more stress on third world countries in the future I do believe the Marine Corps will be needed in its traditional naval expeditionary role. If we continue to expand the Marine Corps and water down the training and requirements because of political correctness, then yes , you might as well get rid of a second army.
Because of technology and the ability to fly troops just about anywhere the Marine Corps are like one dollar bills: The Marine Corps exist simply because the American people want them.
I would simply let the navy absorb at lot of POG MOSs, and lose the PC agenda in training and recruitment and invest the money in being able to deliver the most effective / lethal MEU in U.S. history.
As the world gets hot, flat and crowded along with more and more failed states the MEU will be necessary.
Because of technology and the ability to fly troops just about anywhere the Marine Corps are like one dollar bills: The Marine Corps exist simply because the American people want them.
I would simply let the navy absorb at lot of POG MOSs, and lose the PC agenda in training and recruitment and invest the money in being able to deliver the most effective / lethal MEU in U.S. history.
As the world gets hot, flat and crowded along with more and more failed states the MEU will be necessary.
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I dont freak n think so my Dad served in the I am a Marine until the day I die. This would be an insult to our legacy.
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Having served in both services, the Army could not totally replace the Marines due to the naval warfare specific roll the USMC performs. The Marines also have a much more disciplined culture and the Army does not. This is very important when leading subordinates into battle. The Marine boot camp is much harder than Army basic training for a reason, Marines are all riflemen first and their MOS second. I liked being treated like an adult (a lot of the time) by my superiors in the Army, but I’d have followed my Colonel at the 11th MEU to Hell and back if he asked.
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