Posted on May 28, 2014
Should Army and Marines (or components of) consolidate?
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Think objectively. Traditions, camaraderie aside. Both are somewhat similarly more combat-oriented than USN or USAF. Answer practically without putting down either one of them.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
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The eagle globe and anchor is to sacred !!! Marines lead the way the army gets the credit !! Marines are door kicking knuckle dragging machines and no if the mess up they get punished!!!
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I thought the main reason for the USMC was a quick reaction force that could be deployed to guard or insure vital American interests abroad without the need for congressional approval?
If they consolidate, that opens up a lot of questions. What’s changing and is it for the better?
If they consolidate, that opens up a lot of questions. What’s changing and is it for the better?
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No that would be like saying the Air Force should take over the Navy because we have planes....not at all to even remotely say the Army is almost identical than the Marines is a load of crap. Excluding special forces there is nobody who is more dangerous than a Marine, they train harder and longer than anyone else
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I am a Marine, but I will take this from a logical stand point. The Army and Marine Corps have two different overall missions when conducting combat operations. Marines go take objectives and the Army holds them. As Marines, we hold aquatic specilties that the Army does not. Our relationship with the Navy is strong and on every carrier group you will find a MEU with it. We have tougher physical regulations. What need is there to combine the two services? The Marine Corps gets a small chunk of DOD funding. We have very few of our own bases. We cost the government very little compared to every other branch. Our boot camp is the longest, our PFT the hardest, and our weapons qual the most indepth. It is a waste of time to even consider this proposal.
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The Marines belong with the Navy. That's where they came from. The same with the Air Force, they belong with the Army.
It just makes more sense with their capabilities and operations.
It just makes more sense with their capabilities and operations.
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If this were to happen, then the Army should be absorbed into the Martine Corps. Our less structure is less confusing, since not every rank after E5 can be called Sarge. Plus, our baseline physical fitness requirements are a bit higher, which would weed out certain members. Just bring over their equipment. Being in supply, I know that much of the gear we purchase, especially for artillery and tanks, the Army already has.
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From what I've noticed and have discussed with Marines that have served their 4 then had gotten out to transfer to the army. Is simply the fact that they have a major lack of discipline and ability to get blasted and not freak out to a point of inoperablity is shocking lower then what it should be. That would possibly lead to a weak link in a formation that could cause causltys. I may only be a pfc. but history of the Marine Corp is pounded and imprinted into are beings from the time we are told to step off that bus onto yellow foot prints till the time we leave the Corps. A exclent example of the Marine's ability to adapt overcome and strive in the face of uter destruction would probably be the Korean war. Before the war broke the Presidnet at the time along with Army high command were trying to envelope the Marine corps and it's assets. Only to need them once the army was divided and had their backs to the wall on that little corner. Then in a assault thought to never succeed was pulled off which allowed the Marine's to land half way up the Korean peninsula and secure a foot hold effectively cutting enemy supply lines and driving the North out of the South. That an the frozen Chosen, a nother point of the army's disregard of discipline where when the sector they were entrusted with clasped they basically all out retreated in a cluster storm leaving men and gear behind. The marine's excited in a organized withdrawal keeping both the dead and equipment in there possession. History repeats it's self and the army it seams has turned into a mass organization consintrated not on quality but shear numbers. I respect the army and there abilities, but to say one can do a job is one thing the ability to is another I apologise if I offend any higher rank then my own of any service I'm yet again only a pfc.
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I’ve trained along side Marines and I’m Army National Guard. Every one of them said they would gladly go to war with me any day... I think we could all benefit and learn from one another. Just my opinion.
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