Posted on May 28, 2014
Should Army and Marines (or components of) consolidate?
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Think objectively. Traditions, camaraderie aside. Both are somewhat similarly more combat-oriented than USN or USAF. Answer practically without putting down either one of them.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
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No Marines belong with the Navy it has been that since the country was founded.
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No, as to the capabilities, yes they are similar however, what is the mission of the two? I believe there is better unit focus on separate capabilities, as the Marines are primarily a seaborne infantry strike force with internal capability but, dependent on the Navy to some extent versus the Army with a more broad and multifunctional Land/Air capability with a much larger and complex supply/support system and dependent on the Air Force and Navy. They fight differently, they have a different leadership culture, and sorry tradition of mission. Even looking back at WWII and how Pacific and Atlantic theaters were manage there seems a different mission focus... my opinion having worked with both branches while active duty... I get the objective but, think you would sacrifice capability combining... priorities being priorities in the upper echelons... I think we have it right now with the capability and mission focus of the Army, the Air Force, the Navy and The Marines... separate entities and focus, same team...
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Each branch of the U.S. military has earned their own section. Each branch specializes in different areas despite a lot of the MOSs cross from one to the other. Consolidating the branches would cause a thousand tons more problems than it would solve.
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No, we specialize in many types of warfare, but we do not occupy a theater for longer than is needed to kill there enemy. The merger would water down the ranks ability to conduct business as usual on the Corps side of the house. It's an all around bad idea.
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No. Each has their own tradition history and above all honor. No offense but leave my beloved corps alone. No combination
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Practically, it makes sense. You can’t remove tradition and honor from the equation. Leave them separate
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What about consolidation of USMC and USN air wings. Or as sepetated as they make themselves now assign ALL pilots to USAF they'd just. Specialize.
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For those of us that have spent considerable time in the employ of the federal government it comes as no surprise to hear that the greatest roadblocks to progress stem from bureaucracy. The “tooth to tale” ratio is a key metric for determining the effectiveness of a combat oriented unit. Obviously the more organizations, the more Admin departments, and the greater the “tale” as opposed to the “teeth.” Our weakness was exposed in Granada, Panama, the first gulf war, on 9-11... and we still struggle today with the lack of optimum communication and duplication of effort between agencies, and the inefficiencies they bring.
The purpose of the armed forces is to kill the enemy and blow up his stuff. Or in polite parlance, to reduce or eliminate an opposing force’s capacity to make war. The more streamlined our forces, the more effective we will be at meeting that mandate.
So do I believe there should be consolidation of certain assets? Absolutely. The Marine Corps should be folded into the Army and the Air Force should be split between the Army and Navy. And we should create a Space Force which will handle “space things” including ICBM’s. One Land based Force with air assets, one Sea based Force with air assets, and one Space Force.
Will it ever happen? Of course not...
The purpose of the armed forces is to kill the enemy and blow up his stuff. Or in polite parlance, to reduce or eliminate an opposing force’s capacity to make war. The more streamlined our forces, the more effective we will be at meeting that mandate.
So do I believe there should be consolidation of certain assets? Absolutely. The Marine Corps should be folded into the Army and the Air Force should be split between the Army and Navy. And we should create a Space Force which will handle “space things” including ICBM’s. One Land based Force with air assets, one Sea based Force with air assets, and one Space Force.
Will it ever happen? Of course not...
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The Marine corps can also be mobilized by the president. It does not take a act of congress to move them. In short the marine corps is not going anywhere. They are there for a specific reason.
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