Posted on May 28, 2014
Should Army and Marines (or components of) consolidate?
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Think objectively. Traditions, camaraderie aside. Both are somewhat similarly more combat-oriented than USN or USAF. Answer practically without putting down either one of them.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
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We came to our services and stayed with them for a variety of reasons. Those reasons are led quite frankly, camaraderie and traditions. This pursuit of efficiency and cost savings at the cost of the intangible value that Dog Faced Soldiers and Fancy Pants Marines bring as identities, goals, aspirations are why we win battles when we shouldn't. The Marines do a better job at inculcating the camaraderie and traditions than the Army does and I personally regret that we miss that opportunity. But, there's no arguing with the reality that our services occupy niches -- including zoomies and swabbies as well -- and those niches are both inevitable in a global mission and role. This is not broken, so don't break it for a fix that might work in the civilian world.
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Nope. Marine Infantry (Infanteria de Marina) was created by Imperial Spain to fight and board British and Turkish vessels, and for close coastal action. That need still exists, even though US enemies are different. You can not wait for the US Army to send troops to help sailors battle one on one on impromptu actions either at sea or coast. Remember Bengazzi? Besides, Marines need their Army heros ... xD
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I don't think the Army can operate with the Navy, the same way Marines can. Having a MEU forward deployed, with their ability to sustain operations for a prolonged period of time is unique.
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No.
As an ex-Army man (well, draftee, 18-month early out), I accept that the two services have, in certain respects, different functions (USMC amphibious landings and sea service functions). Different training, sometimes different equipment, is necessitated.
I think the USMC is best left a branch of the USN.
As an ex-Army man (well, draftee, 18-month early out), I accept that the two services have, in certain respects, different functions (USMC amphibious landings and sea service functions). Different training, sometimes different equipment, is necessitated.
I think the USMC is best left a branch of the USN.
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You can't really set camaraderie and traditions aside when camaraderie and tradition are much of what drive the USMC to success. I'm pretty sure the Corps is full of people who would literally rather die than disgrace it. Certainly rather to make any number of others die than be disgraced.
In my opinion. Completely from the outside of both.
In my opinion. Completely from the outside of both.
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To be honest: NO. Marines are Marines... not a branch of Navy, Army or whatever. despite the fact USMC depends of the Navy, They're a branch of their own.
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The only branch we don't need is Air Force. Since Navy and Marine pilots could do that mission. The reason we keep 4 branches is to show other countries we can mess them up 4 different ways
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