Posted on May 28, 2014
Should Army and Marines (or components of) consolidate?
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Think objectively. Traditions, camaraderie aside. Both are somewhat similarly more combat-oriented than USN or USAF. Answer practically without putting down either one of them.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
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Tactically I believe this would be a good move. With the combined budgets of both branches, we could outfit most everyone with better weapons systems and probably still have funds left over for better training and extra equipment. Make a new MOS and/or skill identifier for Amphibious Infantry, and combine all the non-combat MOS individuals. I'm not privy to all the planning that it would require, but the only issue I could see with it is the Marines trying to get over themselves.
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So first off, small disclaimer. I am a Marine and very proud of it. I seen comments of not looking at things in an analytical way and only in an emotional way.
So lets take a look. To start lets rake a look at initial deployment capability. While the Army is gearing up and waiting for congress to stop argueing to authorize everything. The Marine Corps is already there, simply because our orders come directly from the president and he can have us anywhere 90 days at a time without congressional approval.
While the above is possible here is something else to think about. If any happens on our own soil. The Army xan be used and not the Marine Corps. This is because the difference in roles we face. The Army is more security and peace keeping whkle the Marine Corps is an assult force.
Another point that was brought up was the Marine Corps Amphibious operations. No offense to the Army they are still learning about those tactics snd they dont fully understand them. As it has been mentioned by many people, Marines are tied to the Navy and have that water born background.
As far as speed of deployement, if you really think the Army as a whole can deloy faster you need to re evaluate things. The Marine Corps as a whole is designed for rapid deployement.
Now the emotional ties to the Marine Corp. Just remember no one puts the fear of good into an enemy like the Marine Corps, its simple look at our history right down to our nickname.
Maybe one day the Army will be able to live to ours standards but doubtfull.
We all have our places and our roles. The simplest way tk stop the break down is tell the brass to stop measuring because none of them gave it.
So lets take a look. To start lets rake a look at initial deployment capability. While the Army is gearing up and waiting for congress to stop argueing to authorize everything. The Marine Corps is already there, simply because our orders come directly from the president and he can have us anywhere 90 days at a time without congressional approval.
While the above is possible here is something else to think about. If any happens on our own soil. The Army xan be used and not the Marine Corps. This is because the difference in roles we face. The Army is more security and peace keeping whkle the Marine Corps is an assult force.
Another point that was brought up was the Marine Corps Amphibious operations. No offense to the Army they are still learning about those tactics snd they dont fully understand them. As it has been mentioned by many people, Marines are tied to the Navy and have that water born background.
As far as speed of deployement, if you really think the Army as a whole can deloy faster you need to re evaluate things. The Marine Corps as a whole is designed for rapid deployement.
Now the emotional ties to the Marine Corp. Just remember no one puts the fear of good into an enemy like the Marine Corps, its simple look at our history right down to our nickname.
Maybe one day the Army will be able to live to ours standards but doubtfull.
We all have our places and our roles. The simplest way tk stop the break down is tell the brass to stop measuring because none of them gave it.
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While In the Army we were told learn the job of the man below you in rank. And to learn the job of the man above you in rank. Well I believe that the Army and the Marines should integrate,sort of like learning the ranks, exchange service members by MOS or near match MOS's. So many Marines go to the Army, and the Army fills the Marines ranks. Let each service learn the Army/Marine aspect of training and job duties, barracks life. Are there operational difference's. Can the services actually learn from each other? I believe they could. Can they live by the Army reg's with Marine reg's added? It will/would be as they used to say "GOOD TRAINING"
This so called traing should last about 3 months. I guarantee changes would be very evident.Just maybe the Army will "earn" some respect from the Marines.
This so called traing should last about 3 months. I guarantee changes would be very evident.Just maybe the Army will "earn" some respect from the Marines.
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No. We all have our own history, our own traditions. The Army and the Marines have our own missions. If I were to tell my uncle-a Frozen Chosen Marine that they wanted to combine the Army and Marines together, he would be one of the first to be in that charge upon Capital Hill.
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I served along side the U.S. Army at the USDB, Ft. Leavenworth, KS and they had to come to us for help on them celebrating the Army's Birthday. WTFO! It was like they never had.
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As an Army vet, I have to say no. While jar heads may seem like they do the same thing as infantry in the army. There's a whole different scheme in place. The navy needs a land and security force in place. Marines do that. Army can't get there without the navy, or her marines.
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Absolutely not! Read the Constitution. The Navy (therefore USMC) is mandated. The Army is not. In fact "no standing army longer than two years.
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