Posted on May 28, 2014
Should Army and Marines (or components of) consolidate?
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Think objectively. Traditions, camaraderie aside. Both are somewhat similarly more combat-oriented than USN or USAF. Answer practically without putting down either one of them.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
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As long as they all go through Marine boot camp and are called Marines I say why not!
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SSG Roger Ayscue
No,
Our missions are not the same, and all marines can not be what they aspire to be....PARATROOPERS
Our missions are not the same, and all marines can not be what they aspire to be....PARATROOPERS
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No. Putting aside my pride as a marine I say no just because both branches operate much differently, I could see constant conflict if we were to merge.
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No. Bad idea, because it is like joining two arch rival high school football teams! It would be good in a sense to have the teams combined power and strength, but then again when there are two different high school football teams it opens more doors and opportunities for a championship like better percentages for the district to win a title. Just like the name Rally point it is always better to have two Rally points then one, because if one point is compromised there is always and alternatived. Think about it in these terms the last time that our country was in all out war was World War 2. Naval battles, dog fights, the Marines fighting in Japan and the Army fighting in Europe. It is like playing the lottery you don't just buy one ticket you buy multiple tickets. It spreads your odds of winning! Just like in combat!
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WAIT! If you try and combine the Marines and the Army how will I be able to pick on my Marine friends that they are technically employed by the Navy?!?
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SGT Anthony Bussing
lol...I dont think there were any SEALs involved, but back in 1991 or 92 I started a nice little fight down in Coronado...Marines v Navy...it was funny...well...20 + years later its funny...not so much that night...lol
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SGT Mike Marino
good answer from a Capt. Yeah right. Then Captain you will be crying for having to fight the Chinese by yourself. U will get that pretty little white dress your wearing dirty.
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Capt Walter Miller
Wal-Mart would never let us go to war with the Chinese. Seriously, given the worldwide interconnected economic system, a war like WWII is just not likely. On the other hand, if the Chinese call in all our debt we owe them, we might be in trouble.
You Army guys probably don't know but in 1939, relative strength:
US Army 170,000
USMC 19,000
What are the numbers now? The Army is about 3 times as big as the USMC.
Oh, and I see that the Army is adopting STETSON hats for all members. Is that right? It wasn't from duffleblog? That will at least honor the most famous US Army soldier of all time -- George Armstrong Custer.
You Army guys probably don't know but in 1939, relative strength:
US Army 170,000
USMC 19,000
What are the numbers now? The Army is about 3 times as big as the USMC.
Oh, and I see that the Army is adopting STETSON hats for all members. Is that right? It wasn't from duffleblog? That will at least honor the most famous US Army soldier of all time -- George Armstrong Custer.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
Sgt Buckner,
You forgot something...like the President's Own? All other branches are not as capable as our MCAGCT, MEF's, MEB's, and MEU's for starters.
But we all do have one thing in common. That we serve our Nation and defend our Country. S/F, Gunner
You forgot something...like the President's Own? All other branches are not as capable as our MCAGCT, MEF's, MEB's, and MEU's for starters.
But we all do have one thing in common. That we serve our Nation and defend our Country. S/F, Gunner
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
Sgt Richard Buckner, you are right on! I love it and so shouldn't every other Marine! WTF-over! Just outstanding!
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When I first saw this question posed in my RallyPoint email, the first thing I thought of was command structure. If both services were to be consolidated, which model would the command structure follow? I think either service would be doomed by the other's command structure. (OK, not "doomed", but chaos would ensue.)
The Marines are smaller for a reason. They'll never get the funding the Army does, but they can react to things faster, both operationally and administratively.
Besides, the Marines are already part of the Navy.
The Marines are smaller for a reason. They'll never get the funding the Army does, but they can react to things faster, both operationally and administratively.
Besides, the Marines are already part of the Navy.
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Capt Walter Miller
Under the law the Navy and Marine Corps are equal partners in the Department of the Navy. The Commandant is responsible to the CNO for the behavior of Marines assigned to the Navy and the CNO is responsible to CMC when the reverse is true. In reality how the Navy budgets drives a lot of things about USMC planning and operations.
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Here is the primary problem with consolidating the Marine Corps and the Army: They have two different missions and doctrines. The Marine Corps is a QRF and is supposed to go in, destroy what can and needs to be destroyed without hesitation (and quickly enough before higher headquarters changes the ROE's), and hold the ground until the Army can relieve-in-place. Then it becomes the Army's mission and they take command of the AOR. At this point, the Marine Corps either provides support when needed or packs up and goes home/onto the next mission. Combining these two ideologies and doctrines will make for decades of discourse and confusion trying to figure out who does what and where. This is, of course, my humble opinion.
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