Posted on May 28, 2014
Should Army and Marines (or components of) consolidate?
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Think objectively. Traditions, camaraderie aside. Both are somewhat similarly more combat-oriented than USN or USAF. Answer practically without putting down either one of them.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
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Ok Some people will be butt-hurt by this... however i think it is the most logical... The army needs to separate its personnel into combat arms and POGS with their own semi autonomous organizations. combat arms standards are aloud to slack too much because they have to be POG friendly. The marine corps can stay it own entity if they want, but be made a specific CORPS in the army focused on their traditional mission (infantry brown-water and shoreline operations) . Also all their POGS should be army POGS and separated in the way i have mentioned above.
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No because at the end of the day marines are trained more for amphibious operations as well as designed as a protective force for the Navy. The army however is the main land operations force. That's our main mission is land based operations.
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Your question is stupid and you should feel bad. Two totally different missions. You as a Sailor should know what the Marine's mission is and that it is completely separate from the Army's mission.
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Being a former sailor while serving with marines;and served in the army for several years I think I have the qualifications to answer this one.
But rather let me put in perspective you'll understand. Let me pitch a question that relates:
Should the coast guard consolidate with the navy?
In plain view, they both have ships and they both patrol coastlines.
Obviously, there missions and training are vastly different. The mindset for both is equally different. The same can be said about the army and marines. The marines are trained to take an objective with overwelming force. Marines are trained to use the business end of the rifle and all resources related to that. The marines are not trained to be embedded within culture for lengthy terms.
The army is used for that. Have you noticed a majority of forces in Iraq and Afghanistan are army? The army trains for long-term fortifications. The army is trained for broad spectrum missions that marines do have the capabilities or mindset for. Almost all humanitarian missions are conducted by army.
I'm not trying to favor one branch over the other. I'm not saying either branch has the better training, organization, nor proper mindset. These are the observations I've seen, the training I received from them, and the attitudes I've adapted to while serving with both.
But rather let me put in perspective you'll understand. Let me pitch a question that relates:
Should the coast guard consolidate with the navy?
In plain view, they both have ships and they both patrol coastlines.
Obviously, there missions and training are vastly different. The mindset for both is equally different. The same can be said about the army and marines. The marines are trained to take an objective with overwelming force. Marines are trained to use the business end of the rifle and all resources related to that. The marines are not trained to be embedded within culture for lengthy terms.
The army is used for that. Have you noticed a majority of forces in Iraq and Afghanistan are army? The army trains for long-term fortifications. The army is trained for broad spectrum missions that marines do have the capabilities or mindset for. Almost all humanitarian missions are conducted by army.
I'm not trying to favor one branch over the other. I'm not saying either branch has the better training, organization, nor proper mindset. These are the observations I've seen, the training I received from them, and the attitudes I've adapted to while serving with both.
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A Big Resounding NO! While they are both combat oriented, they are very different in operation. It's hard enough trying to work as a joint task force, but if you were to force them to merge.....it would be a log nightmare.
Plus, then we'd have to teach them all to read :)
Plus, then we'd have to teach them all to read :)
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Each have their own missions. When the Navy needs specially trained crew doesn't it make sense to have maritime soldiers? That would be the Marines.
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This is a question that has been asked how many times in our nation's history? Now we see it being asked on this forum! Truthfully it's a silly question. Each branch has a set mission as set forth by the National Security Act of 1947 and amended in the National Military Establishment in 1949.
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Absolutely NOT, The Marines are a very unique fighting force. I spent 20+ years in the Army and am proud of my service. If you combine the two you will not only be disrespecting 200+ years of honor and tradition but will have a recipe for disaster and be putting our nation at risk. We all have earned our place in history. With the way the Marines operate they are a unique combined arms team that the world has ever seen.
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I don't believe it would be easily accepted by the Marines as their deep roots of being the Few, the Proud, the Marines would be very tuff as the Army and Marine standards are far frome the same. But if the Marines realize the traing and influence they could be on the Army and like was would be beyond worldly. I think having cross training between the two would have an impact the enemy would not be able to handle. God bless all Service Members both current and Veterans. Great topic to talk about.
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