Posted on Jan 29, 2023
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Most Christian and Catholic churches in the United States believe that marriage is between one man and one woman. If a member of one of these churches comes out as gay/lesbian and wants to get married in that church, should the pastor be forced, legally, to perform the marriage, OR does the pastor have the right to choose who he will marry? I'll hold my own convictions and thoughts for the discussion.
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COL Randall C.
I feel the question is a bit of a red herring because I can't remember or find any instance where a church/pastor was being held civilly liable for not performing a marriage (in the United States that is ... places like Denmark and such are another story). There have been complaints filed civilly (and dismissed) and religiously (i.e., through the church), but the bottom line is that it would be a clear violation of the Constitution to force them to do so (and that has been stated clearly a number of times by the Supreme Court in various decisions).

The church leadership can force their own clergy to do something (or not do something) or face the consequences, but that too is another story - that's not the government forcing them to do so.

Churches (at least in the United States) do not "legally" marry someone. They perform a religious ceremony that is bound by the tenants of their faiths. Only the state can 'legally' marry you (either by license, common law, etc). Denying someone the ability to be married at a church does not infringe upon their rights to be married, so there is not 'conflict of rights' at stake.
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Well said. I hope the question remains a 'red herring' but I fear the worst in the next several years.
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I truly believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for EVERYONE. If two people (regardless of sexual orientation) want to be married, then they should be allowed. HOWEVER, the church should not be forced to do anything against their “religious beliefs”. One persons rights do not trump another.
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Agreed!
CPT Richard Trione
Thank you so much for sharing this question and information about Churches being forced to perform gay marriages. I disagree with any Churches having to be forced to do anything that goes against their teachings and against the Holy Word. This is the extreme Liberal "Woke" mob trying to force all institutions to conforming to their extreme Anti-Science agenda. All good and moral people should stand up against such a small group of powerful voices and turn their extreme agenda backwards.
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You've got that completely backwards. The liberals are following the science, as always. And, just like always, the conservatives are desperately fighting a losing battle against the real world. The good and moral people of America recognize the rights of ALL Americans to enjoy the full rights guaranteed to each of us, including such things as marriage equality.

Furthermore, if by "Holy Word" you are referring specifically to the Bible, as opposed to the Hold Words of the Quran, or from some other religion, then you should know that when accurately translated, homosexuality is never called a sin.
CW4 Jay Ossiander
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Please provide just one example of a church being forced to marry a gay couple

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