Posted on Dec 5, 2022
Should Donald Trump run for President in 2024?
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Should these recent events disqualify him?
1. He took classified documents and stored them in unlocked rooms.
2. He had dinner with two known antisemitic men.
3. He is now talking about suspending the Constitution.
Should he disqualify himself? In 2020 he said Biden was too old to become President. If Trump is reelected in 2024, he will be five months older than the age Biden was in 2020.
1. He took classified documents and stored them in unlocked rooms.
2. He had dinner with two known antisemitic men.
3. He is now talking about suspending the Constitution.
Should he disqualify himself? In 2020 he said Biden was too old to become President. If Trump is reelected in 2024, he will be five months older than the age Biden was in 2020.
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Speaking as someone who does not want him to run, I will still address your points. However, whether I vote for him or not, which is really the question, depends on the candidate the Dems put up should Trump win the nomination (which I do not think he will this time around).
1. He did not "take" classified documents, he retained them and fought with the Library of Congress as to whether he could continue holding on to them. The documents were not left in an unlocked room, that is a complete mischaracterization of the information released. They were stored in his resort in offices not accessible to anyone without authorization and he still has Secret Service personnel providing security to his Mara Lago resort. To say they were unprotected is a farce. Had this been the case, the FBI would have retrieved them a long time ago.
2. Maybe so and the facts are still coming out about that. Having dinner with antisemitic people does not make one antisemitic. You do know his son-in-law and his daughter are Jewish right? I assume you also noted his support to Israel as President right? The fact is, we have no idea how the dinner played out, what happened, what they may have talked about, etc. This is why it is important to get all the facts before judging people.
3. Trump, as usual, spoke irrationally and I personally think he never meant "suspend the Constitution" as he was referring to rules in general on the Twitter topic. He's frustrated about Twitter's actions to suppress information and rightfully so. However, the way he articulates his frustration and such is what I take issue with. Not because I believe he wants to do away with the Constitution. There are plenty of folks on the left who want to do away with all kinds of parts of the Constitution (Right bear arms, Electoral College, some even want to allow children and illegal immigrants to vote). What Trump said in typical Trump fashion, not separating and qualifying his statements, was stupid and yes, it is a big reason why I do not want him to run.
With that said, I will not be voting for him in the Primaries. The General election has yet to be determined, but a second term for Biden I believe will be much worse. Either way, we'd be screwed, which is why I say it is time for the American people to start promoting my generation (X) and end the Baby Boomer era of control over the office of the President (and several other significant positions). It's not their age I'm concerned about so much (although Biden absolutely looks like he doesn't know where he is or what he's doing), it's their ability to grasp today's issues and resonate better with the American people. Trump and Biden are both set in their ways and way too polarizing, so I have little desire to see either of them continue. There are better options out there. But if you think Trump or even Biden will "disqualify" themselves, I don't think you understand these people that well. In the end, even two new candidates will be turned into polarizing figures, but I didn't like either one of these two before they chose to run from President. Finally, if you're going to use those three points to call for Trump to disqualify himself, have you ever put thought to Biden's questionable actions and statements? They're essentially two peas in the same pod.
1. He did not "take" classified documents, he retained them and fought with the Library of Congress as to whether he could continue holding on to them. The documents were not left in an unlocked room, that is a complete mischaracterization of the information released. They were stored in his resort in offices not accessible to anyone without authorization and he still has Secret Service personnel providing security to his Mara Lago resort. To say they were unprotected is a farce. Had this been the case, the FBI would have retrieved them a long time ago.
2. Maybe so and the facts are still coming out about that. Having dinner with antisemitic people does not make one antisemitic. You do know his son-in-law and his daughter are Jewish right? I assume you also noted his support to Israel as President right? The fact is, we have no idea how the dinner played out, what happened, what they may have talked about, etc. This is why it is important to get all the facts before judging people.
3. Trump, as usual, spoke irrationally and I personally think he never meant "suspend the Constitution" as he was referring to rules in general on the Twitter topic. He's frustrated about Twitter's actions to suppress information and rightfully so. However, the way he articulates his frustration and such is what I take issue with. Not because I believe he wants to do away with the Constitution. There are plenty of folks on the left who want to do away with all kinds of parts of the Constitution (Right bear arms, Electoral College, some even want to allow children and illegal immigrants to vote). What Trump said in typical Trump fashion, not separating and qualifying his statements, was stupid and yes, it is a big reason why I do not want him to run.
With that said, I will not be voting for him in the Primaries. The General election has yet to be determined, but a second term for Biden I believe will be much worse. Either way, we'd be screwed, which is why I say it is time for the American people to start promoting my generation (X) and end the Baby Boomer era of control over the office of the President (and several other significant positions). It's not their age I'm concerned about so much (although Biden absolutely looks like he doesn't know where he is or what he's doing), it's their ability to grasp today's issues and resonate better with the American people. Trump and Biden are both set in their ways and way too polarizing, so I have little desire to see either of them continue. There are better options out there. But if you think Trump or even Biden will "disqualify" themselves, I don't think you understand these people that well. In the end, even two new candidates will be turned into polarizing figures, but I didn't like either one of these two before they chose to run from President. Finally, if you're going to use those three points to call for Trump to disqualify himself, have you ever put thought to Biden's questionable actions and statements? They're essentially two peas in the same pod.
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Cpl Henry Busby
Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - When you say "politically driven" how does that play when all of the testimony against him is coming from fellow Republicans and even close staff members. I guess that since they deem the prosecutors as Democrats, that makes it political. Perhaps I have missed the Democrats testifying against him or the Democrat judges who have shot down his claims. When you say "politically driven" are you saying that his own party members are out to get him? I simply don't understand that determination from his supporters.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
I invite you to look at their record with Trump and who put them in their position. The AG of GA literally ran for her office on going after Trump. Is that not a political position? But if you had read my comments throughout this thread, like so many people apparently refuse to do, you'd why I call it politically motivated. But I think you and many others, deep down inside, know it's politically motivated. You just don't care because its Trump.
I take issue with that, even as someone who like to see Trump go away. There is an obvious inconsistency to when indictments are levied against people like Trump, when similar (but to a larger degree and implications) actions were ignored. And yes, there are several members within the Republican party who are out to prevent Trump from being a candidate again. The difference is none of them are weaponizing the courts to do it. I realize this thread is incredibly long and there's a lot to sort through, but you are the one who chose to join one that has been going on for 9 months.
I take issue with that, even as someone who like to see Trump go away. There is an obvious inconsistency to when indictments are levied against people like Trump, when similar (but to a larger degree and implications) actions were ignored. And yes, there are several members within the Republican party who are out to prevent Trump from being a candidate again. The difference is none of them are weaponizing the courts to do it. I realize this thread is incredibly long and there's a lot to sort through, but you are the one who chose to join one that has been going on for 9 months.
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Cpl Henry Busby
Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - I see and respond no matter how long the thread has been going on. But again, it is Republicans, even ones chosen by him who are "spilling the beans", even Judges appointed by him are ruling against him. So because the prosecutor is not of his party that makes it "Politically driven"? Should they defer to a Republican prosecutor for appearance's sake? I will say again, I do not understand why if the testimony and evidence point toward wrongdoing why does it matter what letter is in front of the prosecutor's name. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
Who is pushing for and leading the efforts to prosecute? This is where the politics come into play. Like I said, GA's was brought about by a DA elected after running on going after Trump. The DOJ's Merrick Garland appointed a special prosecutor to indict Trump.
The so-called evidence are each a stretch, essentially trying to find a law that best fits the bill while showing no prosecutorial consistency for far worse transgressions.
The so-called evidence are each a stretch, essentially trying to find a law that best fits the bill while showing no prosecutorial consistency for far worse transgressions.
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I hope not! In my opinion, he does not embrace our value system and integrity! These factors and questionable behaviors are not consistent with the leader of the free world!
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SGT Louis Perrault
PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster blah blah blah, same old crap from people with TDS...where is Epsteins list of island hoppers? Sick and tired of garbage lies that CNN, WAPO, and even FOX News (I watch none of them) none can be trusted unless your last name is Biden, Obama or Clinton
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PO3 Edward Riddle
SGT Louis Perrault - You're a fortunate man to have sat and talked with President Trump, before he was the Prez Brother Louis.
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PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster
SGT Louis Perrault - Abusive cowards, like Trump, are very charming. Confirmed Sex Abuser, and I have a feeling soon to a Convict Number 2024-45- (State fills in the rest). Soon Michigan may add the lists of states filing action.
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SGT Louis Perrault
PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster - Same crap you said before, talk to pedo joe about abuse as there is actual proof of his just ask Ashley Biden. He will not go to jail and after 7 years I would think people like you would realize that. Get your head out of the sand and stop listening to MSM's
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Along with your three points, we need to remember additional accusations (tampering with Georgia electors, egregious tax fraud, January 6th involvement, etc.)
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23306941/donald-trump-crimes-criminal-investigation-mar-a-lago-fbi-january-6-election-georgia-new-york
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23306941/donald-trump-crimes-criminal-investigation-mar-a-lago-fbi-january-6-election-georgia-new-york
The 4 major criminal probes into Donald Trump, explained
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SPC Suzie Clary
No tax fraud. no election interference. Now how many Dems during Obama years owed millions in unpaid taxes? Never paid, never mentioned, business as usual, nothing to see here.
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PV2 Larry Sellnow
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PV2 Larry Sellnow
SPC Suzie Clary YOU forget Trumps Corporation was busted for 17 counts of taz x evasion did you? Oh and He was just indicted for election interference in the state of Georgia along with 18 of his pals SO take your BS and go peddle it on Trump's site Lies social
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