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Individuals who dedicate their lives to any public service organization/department, will not feel satisfied until they have seen the good, the bad and the ugly parts of their perform duties. A firefighter will feel unfulfilled until he/she has put out a fire, a cop will feel the same, till he/she makes her first arrest. Many soldiers feel incomplete without having experienced first-hand what it is like to serve overseas. NTC, only does so much as mock scenarios go and it is great training, but a deployment fully immersed in nothing but soldiers getting in the field and getting their feet wet in all-hazard training. With all the hullabaloo, about slick sleeves and veterans, why not have a continuous cycle of personnel on overseas duty stations, minimum 6 mos. at a time for reservists and National Guard soldiers. With the campaigns winding down and the Army becoming smaller, these soldiers will have less and less opportunities to serve. I am aware that state and federal budgeting is a conflict and our country's trillion dollar debt crisis is definitely an impediment but if it were possible? Should it be done?
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Speaking personally, I feel that every Soldier, Sailor, Airman, and Marine should deploy... IF they are afforded the opportunity and are able-bodied.
I've known many in my time that were REMFs in the classic sense of the word. Commanding Officers who'd never been outside of CONUS and NCOs who wouldn't know which way to point a rifle if it weren't for the bullets pointing the way. It was previously mentioned that troops that have deployed should receive consideration (for promotion, school, or PCS) over those who have not. I fully agree with that as the job of our military is to kill people and break things.
Finally, I am not aware of a single MOS, save DI/DS, that doesn't have a forward-deployed mission. With that said: leave no one behind.
I've known many in my time that were REMFs in the classic sense of the word. Commanding Officers who'd never been outside of CONUS and NCOs who wouldn't know which way to point a rifle if it weren't for the bullets pointing the way. It was previously mentioned that troops that have deployed should receive consideration (for promotion, school, or PCS) over those who have not. I fully agree with that as the job of our military is to kill people and break things.
Finally, I am not aware of a single MOS, save DI/DS, that doesn't have a forward-deployed mission. With that said: leave no one behind.
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I don't think you would find a lot of people that would argue against the required deployment. I believe most people that have joined the service would gladly except a deployment. I can say is a former reservists that I put myself on every list to get deployed, yet never was called due to either MOS or unit status/capabilities.
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It is nice to her you want to deploy and get in on some of the action. However, Veterans must realize they come with a job specialty and that there are assigned slots for overseas and war zones that their specialty just doesn't fit. We serve at the pleasure of the army and while it is great to be rounded out it is not always possible. Sometimes you may have to get a job specialty change to get those chances. I was a General combat support soldier and never got near the field for six years. Ten I volunteered for Army Special forces and the whole world opened for me. I received more training, more overseas assignments, and was more satisfied with my contribution to our missions. 33 years and 3 months later, I retired and have no regrets about any of my service. God bless you, God Bless America, and may all Americans be as willing as you to serve our great country. Be the best you can be!
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No, we are there for the needs of our country, not ours. We should go where we are told, and serve with pride.
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Yes I think that they should within reason especially Combat Arms/Support troops
If you are permanently non-deployable for medical. Then you need to be boarded.
I deployed several times with a P3 profile while my peers remain back in Garrison
If you are permanently non-deployable for medical. Then you need to be boarded.
I deployed several times with a P3 profile while my peers remain back in Garrison
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LTC Stephen Conway
but SGM, those with medical issues, who can't run, can't shoot move and communicate without a sleep apnea machine, those who can't wear body armor due to bad back and those who have bad knees, with special skills could be still used in the rear dept or in the assembly areas in the rear.
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LTC Stephen Conway - If you're permanently unable to perform the duties of your MOS field you are holding a position a fully qualified soldier should hold. It's nothing personal, this is a war fighting organization. If a person still wants to serve join as a civilian/contractor.
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As a member of the military one is obligated to perform where and when he/she is called a upon. If one does so and does one's best he/she has met their obligation and he/she should not be looked upon any differently than another.
If one chooses to classify the service of another as inferior, then one should be looking at those who make the assignments.
If one chooses to classify the service of another as inferior, then one should be looking at those who make the assignments.
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no, i have experienced enough foxholes with unprepared pansy's in my day. Not everyone is fit for it or prepared for the challenges that arise from it - you are better off leaving them at home with the people manning the office at home.
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http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2015/12/25/army-bct-cuts-reorganization-coming-service-loses-40k-more-soldiers/77167510/ the writing is on the wall...do more with less Rumsfeld thinking 2015/2016
Army BCT cuts, reorganization coming as service loses 40K more soldiers
The Army will reorganize two brigade combat teams and convert at least one more in coming months as it cuts 40,000 soldiers.
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Every soldier should perform his/her duties to the best of his/her ability.
Whether the soldier deploys is not up to him/her. In my case, if I volunteered for duty in Vietnam I had a five year wait before I would go.
Was I less because of that?
Whether the soldier deploys is not up to him/her. In my case, if I volunteered for duty in Vietnam I had a five year wait before I would go.
Was I less because of that?
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MAJ Michael Sjostrom
A twist on your question, yes, all Soldiers should be deployable. There is a huge difference between dodging deployment and present duty not allowing it. It sounds like you did your duty and even tried to deploy - no shame or dishonor; you did your duty.
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MAJ Michael Sjostrom - Well, I said a 5 year wait if I volunteered. I did not volunteer. I did change jobs and got orders to Taiwan. But they were cancelled when I was forced out.
But, yes, the point is I followed every order I was given.
But, yes, the point is I followed every order I was given.
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My thoughts are that a young soldier coming into the service now should be fully trained within a permanent structured force for one full year before being required to deploy into a war zone. Exceptions would be for those who volunteer to deploy will full knowledge of expectations.
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I agree, when I was an AIT Platoon Sergeant, one day I asked a Health Care Provider the question; why do all the AIT students get all their dental work performed, besides some medical screenings and shots completed in AIT and not Basic Training?
The provider informed me that every and all AIT students that have successfully completed their required training and certifications must arrive at their new permanent party duty station in a "ready" deployable status.
Nothing new, I spoke with Soldiers from the 82nd Airborne on two separate combat deployments and we got on the subject of taking shots and prepping for deployment and they informed me that they didn't receive all their shots and other administrative preps, but were informed by their COC that they would received what they didn't in Garrison at the FOB they were to be assigned at.
The provider informed me that every and all AIT students that have successfully completed their required training and certifications must arrive at their new permanent party duty station in a "ready" deployable status.
Nothing new, I spoke with Soldiers from the 82nd Airborne on two separate combat deployments and we got on the subject of taking shots and prepping for deployment and they informed me that they didn't receive all their shots and other administrative preps, but were informed by their COC that they would received what they didn't in Garrison at the FOB they were to be assigned at.
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