Should Height/Weight be Disregarded if the PT Score is High Enough?

90% in each event should get rid off the tape test. The problem is that individuals can train for an APFT however may still be out of shape.
We need to keep our current APFT but simply add the combat fitness test like the USMC does, no need to re-Invent the wheel.
But you know how the Army does things they will form a committee at the pentagon and the Sergeanst Major Academy, proposals will be written and evaluated at the fitness school at FT Jackson. With the findings a new OIC and NCOIC will stablished to oversea te different implementations along with a couple GS and contracting positions to help out. By the time all these take place 2-3 years will pass by they will need to make some permanent positions for the guys that originally created the new program and eventually around year 6 you will see something rolled out just in time to begin looking for something new. Army red tape at its best, everything I just described was how PRT was developed, tested, shelved, and revived in a 10 year period.

Anyone know why they use a picture with Marines for an Army post.

The thing that everyone forgets, the ABCP is not just about health, it's about maintaining a Soldierly appearance. This is important for our image and recruiting.

The taping process is subjective at best. 600-9 states how to lay the tape on the neck, chest, waist etc, but most of the time if your "buddy" is doing the tape he will pull a little tighter or give extra slack. If the Army is going to live and die by the tape, use a system that is less subjective.

Yes. As a bodybuilder, "I always had to go to the tape". The pencil neck geek mama's boys that developed the height/weight scale were way off the beam.

As one of those who walked the line from commissioning to retirement the height weight regulations are truly flawed. In 1985 I was 5'9: and 195 lbs with 7% body fat and I was taped dipped and calipered I scored a 300 on my PT test and was stilled dinged on my OER for my height and weight. When I retired in 2010 I was 220lbs and still passed my tape test and I also retained a 240 PT test average. Again I was counseled on my weight and look . I wrestled in college, High School and a little while in the Army, I played Football in High School and I lifted weights throughout my career. I was by no means Fat or out of shape. Lastly there are many different body types and no one type fits in the Height Weight Mold the military has adopted. Not everyone is 6' ft and 175 lbs and can run like a gazelle and lift weights like a gorilla.

SFC (Join to see) , I don't know too much about Army PT standards, so I'm going with 240 or higher. The simple reason is: some people in the military lift weights and/or are body builders. So while they have big necks, small waists, and can most likely get higher than the minimum required scores in each area of a PT test they still won't pass height/weight.

This is a flaw in the system, and one that every branch has. The Navy has actually started seriously talking about changing the system.

So my overall opinion is; if a person is very obviously in shape but is deemed "overweight" because of a flawed system then something needs to change.

90 points in each event

The "APFT is a commander's tool". Why is everyone tell him/her what to do with failures.

I was considered overweight by army standards and it absolutely sucks I use to run from my house in Baumholder Germany to my Company every day, barely eat every day always on a diet and had one of the highest APFT in the company just to always be flagged for weight, get rid of it or do what the Marines do and have Classes if you get a 1st class or 2nd class APFT you don’t get weighed or taped 3rd class you get weighed, taped and Flagged