Should Height/Weight be Disregarded if the PT Score is High Enough?

if you have the AFPT Badge i think Ht/WT should be over looked. if you don't have the badge and are over the Armys standards for hight and weight you should be placed on remedial pt to improve your pt Score. and if you don't pass your test them you have three tries to pass before chapter process start. if you don't want to put in 100% you don't need to be in the military

Absolutely concur with this. Not saying I am solid muscle right now, but I do dance on the line of my ht/wt standard. That being said, I have never come close to busting tape and scored a 293 on my last APFT. I could stand to lose some belly fat but am nowhere near a level where I think taping is necessary.

I failed the tape test then got kicked out for being about 1/2% over weight in 1998. I Re-Enlisted back in 2002 4 1/2 years in the Kansas Army National Guard. and did 2 tours 1 year at FT. Leavenworth as part of Operation Noble Eagle. Then 1 1/2 year tour 1 year at Camp Bondsteel,Kosovo KFOR rotation 6B

Somebody here posted that a permanent profile troop would be always held to height weight requirements due to being unable to participate in certain events (depending on the profile).... If your on a permanent profile which keeps you from being able to do push ups, sit ups, or a two mile run, your basically also "non-deployable". With that, it's my opinion, that if the military decides to retain you whatever reasons, that individual should most CERTAINLY adhere to height/weight. Being on profile isn't an excuse to break regulations, because your midol wore off. If your on a perm profile, the military should bounce your backside out of its ranks. If they need you for conus mission critical shit, okay fine. Otherwise, if they won't let you to broke to serve, you damn well ought not be able to stay in either!

When I first joined I was pretty lean with average scores (260 and above) my scores never really changed too much but my weight (stomach did) and honestly I was pretty unhealthy for a good 4 years while barely scraping by during Ht/Wt the army as a whole needs to consider more education and development on health not physical accomplishment, because pride and not losing your job can motivate you to pass even when you are declining in health. Healthy soldiers not "PT Studs" is what we need

For any service, if you can score in the top 90 percent range on all of the categories I do not thinks the BMI measurements should apply. I remember the BMI passing people who could barley make the min requirements for everything else. But the biggest question is can you perform you job function. I can see a computer skilled person not looking or be in as good of shape as "grunt" but does that really stop them from doing their job to a high level?

I TOTALLY AGREE IF A SOLIDER PROVES THAT HE OR SHE CAN PASS THE PHYSICAL DEMANDS OF THE PT TEST THEN THEY SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM HIEGHT/WEIGHT STANDARDS ONE EXAMPLE I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS I ONCE HAD A SOLIDER IN MY UNIT THAT WAS A BODY BUILDER THERE WAS NOT ONE ONCE OF FAT ON THIS MAN HE WAS EVACUATED OF BEING SOMETHING LIKE 40 LBS OVER WEIGHT HE CRUSHED THE PT TEST YET HE WAS PLACE IN THE WEIGHT CONTROL PPROGRAM JUST DIDNT MAKE SENSE

Maybe if they get a 290, taking all 3 events... Bottom line it's really rare that someone gets a 300 and are enrolled in ABCP...

Standards are Standards... Read AR 40-501 Standards of Medical Fitness.

Also, many other underlying health factors may be present in an overweight troop. Just because you can pass a PT Test doesn't mean that you won't be diabetic. PT alone doesn't make you "Fit to Fight".

People who are mentally unstable can pass fitness tests, would you want them in the foxhole next to you?

Adhere to the standards, for failing to adhere to the standards or maintaining the standards has caused a lot of unfit troops into the service.

http://cdm16635.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/collection/p16635coll11/id/672

The HT/WT standard is arbitrary and unscientific. The APFT doesn't really measure fitness nor does it predict job performance. We waste man hours training and stressing over duties that are irrelevant to our jobs. I came out of basic 5'11, 212 and rock solid. While on active duty, I got taped every PT test for 4 years. At my last duty station, I got taped every month. My last 1SG - a reservist of 30 years who'd never been taped - held special extra PT sessions for those of us who needed to be taped. NO excuses.

*But Top, I scored higher on the APFT than you did
*But Top, I look good in uniform

His response, 'if you're outside the standard, you have to meet me in the parking lot after final formation for remedial PT'. Don't hold it against me, but I openly laughed during his last PT test prior to retirement. Not only did he have to take an alternate event (the bike), but he had to be taped. This from the guy that said he wouldn't submit promotion packets for people with permanent profiles!