Posted on Oct 18, 2017
CW2 Aviation Mission Survivability Officer (Amso)
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I just recently received reservation emails for Phase 1/2 of WOCS and WOBC. My command team is trying to force me to push back my WOCS school date so I stay through the deployment with them. Can this even be done and is it legal? I’ve already gone through so much resistance with my BN Commander on this and now that he knows I’m leaving for WOCS, he’s trying to push back my report date.
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CW2 Information Services Technician
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That is ridiculous. GO TO WOCS!!! They can be upset, but your on orders and when you finish WOCS you will be on orders to WOBC, and your old unit will be old news.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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Take a school when you can get a school. Your commander will get by. If you have any Warrants in your unit have them talk to your leadership. If needed contact the school and see if there is someone who can help you. Every deployment will always have the "I can't afford to lose you person." I have to wonder if this commander is more worried about himself or his soldiers. A commander who doesn't look at what is best for the needs of the service in the future is IMHO very short sited.
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WO1 Pilot
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Don't push your dates back! From what everyone here is saying I'm guessing they have no way to do it themselves which is why they are trying to get you to do it voluntarily. My command is trying the same type of stuff. Think bigger than this deployment, You were selected for a reason- because the Army needs you! See you at WOCS : )
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CW2 Aviation Mission Survivability Officer (Amso)
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WO1 (Join to see) Did you get selected also?
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WO1 Pilot
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Yes, I'll be there in March if everything goes right
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WO1 Geospatial Engineering Technician
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Its entirely up to you. The army is designed so that there should not be any single points of failure in terms of personnel. I ran into the same issue. They tried to force me to sign a deferment, but DA G1 and WOCS trumps the unit. I went, and they got a replacement for me shortly after. It was definitely a stressor for my unit, but you have to take care of yourself, too. The unit will go on with or without you.
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CW2 Aviation Mission Survivability Officer (Amso)
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I fully agree! I 1000% don’t want to defer my date whatsoever, but because we are deployed (non-combat, I may add) they feel that I should defer my date to a later time. I won’t do it. Not voluntary deferment at least. If my BN Commander calls HRC, does he have the power to push back my WOCS/WOBC dates? WO1 (Join to see)
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CW2 Division Targeting Officer
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CW2 (Join to see) - NO he doesnt have the power to push your date! It will only happen if you voluntarily let it happen even then HRC can still say no and will most likely do so.
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CW2 Aviation Mission Survivability Officer (Amso)
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Thank you Mr. Copeland! I getting the general consensus that he can’t push it back, which is good because I’m ready to go.
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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dont push back your date.
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WO1 Information Services Technician
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Don’t push your date back. The unit will survive with or without you.
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CW2 Aviation Mission Survivability Officer (Amso)
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Roger chief, I got the go ahead from my unit. All is good now.
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Don't do it. Go to WOCS and keep moving forward in your career. Also, if you don't go now, there will be an empty seat that someone could be filling but isn't because you were selected over them.
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