Posted on Mar 15, 2016
Should I report unprofessional behavior through the Chain of Command or an IG complaint?
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Thank you,
-RP Staff
Recently was involved in an one way exchange with a CPT in which she directed towards a Senior NCO (SFC) in a derogatory, belittling and denigrating expressing her personal feelings toward such SFC. Since this is to get get a general consensus of what should be done, I would like to leave out names and places out but can include that the CPT's comments towards the SFC included: "you are a sorry a$$ excuse of an NCO", " you are the biggest piece of $hit I know" and continued to go on not just about such Senior NCO but included the family members.
Considering that if this was a lower to an NCO doing this, the Soldier would be crucified. If this was an NCO to an officer?, someone would be out of a job.
I heard one day that the moment you lose your bearing you lost the argument. So the SFC did the right thing by keeping professionally quiet and bringing up to the supervisor. Situation is now: such CPT has gone around telling Soldiers how "she ripped in to this SFC with a grin"...
What would be some appropriate ways to handle this situation?
Thank you,
-RP Staff
Recently was involved in an one way exchange with a CPT in which she directed towards a Senior NCO (SFC) in a derogatory, belittling and denigrating expressing her personal feelings toward such SFC. Since this is to get get a general consensus of what should be done, I would like to leave out names and places out but can include that the CPT's comments towards the SFC included: "you are a sorry a$$ excuse of an NCO", " you are the biggest piece of $hit I know" and continued to go on not just about such Senior NCO but included the family members.
Considering that if this was a lower to an NCO doing this, the Soldier would be crucified. If this was an NCO to an officer?, someone would be out of a job.
I heard one day that the moment you lose your bearing you lost the argument. So the SFC did the right thing by keeping professionally quiet and bringing up to the supervisor. Situation is now: such CPT has gone around telling Soldiers how "she ripped in to this SFC with a grin"...
What would be some appropriate ways to handle this situation?
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Well was it warranted? I've known many sorry senior NCOs that fit this description. Of course that was back before the PC military of today. I also know if it was not warranted that captain would find herself flat on her back or at a minimum since it's a female would have gotten my response. All bets are off when you lose your professional demeanor and belittle someone and it's uncalled for, but we also knew if we had it coming you took your lickings and continued to march.
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Always use the chain of command first. IG is for when that fails, the first thing they'll ask at IG is who you reported it to at unit level.
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If you go to the IG, they will go to the chain of command. So your best bet is to go to the chain of command. If the SFC has witnesses it will help her/him in their cause. No matter what, they DO need to bring this up to the command. I had a few mid and junior grade officers I assisted in mentoring. They get with the wrong crowd and loose their minds.
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I'd try and talk to the SFC about getting a new assignment under a new command. If not its going to be the elephant in the room until they put the whole incident on blast. Formal apology maybe?
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If it were an NCO treating an e-4 or below in such a manner, it would be just another day at the office...suck it up buttercup.
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If it's already been handled by going upwards above the captain, little needs said or done. The SFC was appropriate in keeping their mouth shut and moving on and telling the capt's superior. The SFC doesn't have to lower him/herself to the captain's level. It gets him/her nowhere. Captain could say 'now you're disprectful on top of being a P.O.S.' No comment from the SFC and the captain continues to show his/her true colors. My bet is that the captain gets reassigned and PROMOTED....just sayin...
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She was probably married to him and it was just another day! (Well we don't have any of the pertinent facts so, You just have to make them up)!
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Maybe the CPT is right. Just because he's a SFC means that his feelings have to be taken into account. I once watched the 1st Cav CSM lock up the DIVARTY CSM in front of an entire BTRY. Maybe the SFC's family is the problem. MP's getting called, arrested, post housing disgusting, wouldn't be the first time. Maybe the CPT is incredibly squared away. Without knowing the background you really can't make a judgment.
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