Posted on Feb 5, 2015
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Should people who are medically retired from the service receive the same retirement certificate as those that did the required 20 years or more?

I felt compelled to edit my original post due to the inability of people to decipher its intended message. Nowhere in the original post was I recommending nor advocating diminishing the quality of anyone’s service, in fact I stated that those that served honorably deserve due recognition.
Unfortunately people were so passionate about the subject that they failed to realize that I was actually defending those that served honorably against those that are shirking the system in order to obtain medical retirement.
In short I was merely advocating a different retirement certificate for those that completed the requisite 20 years versus those that didn’t. This is no way makes the service any less valuable it merely allows people to differentiate. However the onslaught of down votes has only re-enforced the fact that voicing your opinion on social media is the fastest way to create a riot despite the failure of the intended targets ability to translate its content.
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SFC Mark Merino
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SFC (Join to see) I did 18.5 years and was blown up on my 2nd tour. I spent months in the hospital and endured a dozen surgeries and 2 years in the WTB, BEGGING to remain on active duty. I still live in chronic pain and despite being 100% disabled and Purple Hearted I apologize for tarnishing your "Retired" piece of paper. If you send me your address, I will mail it directly to you so that you can piss all over it if that will make you feel better. Please forgive me. God bless you my brother.
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Sam Bocetta
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Wow, Mark
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MSgt Carl Stokes
MSgt Carl Stokes
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Boom! enough said!
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SGT Infantryman
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So, that's my 5 cents.... I have over 8 years of service what I know may not amount to much compared to some of you. About 4 years back I had back issues but was allowed time to heal but 2 years ago it came back. My knee also was giving me issues because of untreated fractures and about an year ago it developed multiple issues including floating patelus, Caucificacao tendons, I'm also licking bone fluid on my knee and they can't do surgery. Even with my injuries I only stopped training a few months ago when the pain was too much and they decided to start my MEB. My plan was to retire from the service as a 11B. All my injuries are connected to service and to be true, I few I'll end up with barely an AAM while soldiers that just did 3 years with no deployments been getting consistent ARCOMs because being invited as an infantryman makes you a s* bag.
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SGT Royden Leggett
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i got put med. out of the ohio nat and the usar, i got hurt on 4/16/1993. but in april 1997.i got my discharge.4 year they kept me on the head count, so they could keep getting money for me on the rolls call. 14 and a half years. rankbetween 4 ande5.
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Sgt Jay Jones
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SFC Steven Grudzinski, I find the fact that this is an issue with anyone very disheartening. I don't begrudge anything anyone who has Honorably served in the U.S. Military receives. I did not spend 20+ years in the Marine Corps. l was not medically discharged. I got out after 5 years. However, I served my tour in the Republic of Vietnam. So, now I am 100% Disabled because of Agent Orange. The gift that keeps on giving. I would much rather be able to still be working than dealing with these debilitating illness that will eventually take my life. So, if that piece of paper means that much to you, maybe you should re-evaluate what is truly important in life. For me the most important thing in my life is my "Dash". When you look at someone's tombstone you see the day an individual was born and the day the person died. What do you find in between? A "Dash". That "Dash" represents their life. That is what is most important to me. How I lived my life, was a good man, was I a good father, did I raise my children and grandchildren to love God. Did I try to live a sin free life. Did I love my fellow man. Did I die without hatred for any man in my heart. To me those are the things that I want to be remembered for. Not a piece of paper that will eventually turn yellow and crumble, because it's made by man!
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TSgt Maritime Targeting Analyst
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God bless you! My father is permanently disabled because of his service in the Republic of Vietnam. You're in my thoughts and prayers... And I wish you the best, Sgt. Jones!
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Sgt Jay Jones
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TSgt Amanda Golden, thank you for your prayers and thoughts. I hope and pray that your father is doing as well as can be expected also! Thank you again.
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Sgt Wayne Horton
Sgt Wayne Horton
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amen good words to see
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Sam Bocetta
Sam Bocetta
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Well said
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MG Hugh Van Roosen
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I think that the vast majority of those who are medically retired would have preferred to stay serving. The question is presumably more about the observation that some people that are medically retired seem to be in pretty good shape, but that is a physician's call. Those that are medically retired may be downplaying the extent of their condition. I give these fellow service members the benefit of the doubt and am grateful for their service.
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SSG John Erny
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BG Hugh Van Roosen,

Sir, I was close enough to the finish line med det let ride it out until 20 because that is what I wanted, I am second guessing that choice as a chapter 61 would have been financially sound option.
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SGT Elizabeth Elliott
SGT Elizabeth Elliott
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I took a horrible fall and at 37 have had a shoulder reconstructed, a lumbar fusion and cervical fusion. I was only in 2 years when the fell happen. 4 years later, I had the surgeries. I would take anything verse what I have had to deal with today. I'm still fighting va for benefits and I have been house bound for the past 6 months. This is not the life I ever thought I would have. I have 2 college degrees and can't even hold my head up long enough to hold a job. I hope through physical therapy and time that I get better. I am not sure if they will retire me or not but I do know this ail affect me for the rest of my life.
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SP5 Thomas Thomas
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The bad thing about med ret is that they treat you as if you have given up but in reality you have given 110% but your body is not cooperating with your brain (intentions )I've seen people give up so now you are labeled as a outcast I'm sorry I gave my all
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Well stated, I will say I would not have stayed in the military on active duty but would have gone to the reserves or joined the guard. I was on my second deployment and planned on attending college regardless and unfortunately was injured by an IED. Still went to college after just as a 22 year old retiree.

I would say I downplay my injuries because there is not need to up-sell them.
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