Posted on May 14, 2014
Should military courtesy be required in RallyPoint?
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For example, should enlisted personnel address higher ranking officers as "Sir" in discussions? Or is courtesy assumed? Do you think veterans "exempt" from courtesy?
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In respect to the question; it appears that this primarily refers to Active Duty Military Personnel. Military Courtesy is required under the UCMJ for active Duty Personnel which also includes here on Social Media or other public arenas whether "On Duty" or "Off Duty". So, for active duty personnel, yes they should still use proper Military Courtesy when addressing higher ranking personnel in the threads on Rally Point. Those who don't may be subject to violation of the UCMJ.
Veterans on the other hand, they aren't typically held accountable under the UCMJ so it's not necessarily required. However, it is certainly more socially acceptable and respectful of each other here on Rally Point. I think that most Veterans (whether retired or not), myself included, will still use some form of professional/military courtesy by virtue of our military training or even our upbringing before we joined the military.
While Civilians with no personal military background have no "official" requirement to provide any courtesy to officers or enlisted regardless of rank or position. However, most of them (at least here on Rally Point) do extend some level of professional courtesy when responding to or starting Threads.
One thing I really like about Rally Point is that generally we are all more respectful of each others postings, far more than on most of the other social media platforms. You will always have the jerks who pop in and out of conversations to "stir things" up while offering no valid input to threads; but that is true in real life too. Thankfully, my experience here has been that is certainly not the norm; typically we add our input, encourage each other and offer up thanks for posts that provide valuable insights and information.
Veterans on the other hand, they aren't typically held accountable under the UCMJ so it's not necessarily required. However, it is certainly more socially acceptable and respectful of each other here on Rally Point. I think that most Veterans (whether retired or not), myself included, will still use some form of professional/military courtesy by virtue of our military training or even our upbringing before we joined the military.
While Civilians with no personal military background have no "official" requirement to provide any courtesy to officers or enlisted regardless of rank or position. However, most of them (at least here on Rally Point) do extend some level of professional courtesy when responding to or starting Threads.
One thing I really like about Rally Point is that generally we are all more respectful of each others postings, far more than on most of the other social media platforms. You will always have the jerks who pop in and out of conversations to "stir things" up while offering no valid input to threads; but that is true in real life too. Thankfully, my experience here has been that is certainly not the norm; typically we add our input, encourage each other and offer up thanks for posts that provide valuable insights and information.
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Common Courtesy - is always appropriate. I have not been in the military for decades - I would not know someone was talking to me if they began with my rank. Neither do I refer to anyone else by rank, regardless of whatever they achieved. Unless they are active duty and it is appropriate.
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SPC,
For those that have been in uniform military courtesy should already be instilled in you. It is a show of respect, much like saying yes ma’am or no ma’am to your mother. For those still in uniform it is a “requirement”, for those that are no longer in uniform it is a “no brainer”. In the civilian world it is a mark of a mature person with the confidence and abilities of a veteran.
I will be able to identify you as a veteran by your military bearing (courtesy), you display in most everything you do, if you let me. In our present society if I had to choose between two people for anything with all things being equal I will ALLWAYS opt to the veteran. You put on our uniform and raised your right hand that speaks volumes to me.
For those that have been in uniform military courtesy should already be instilled in you. It is a show of respect, much like saying yes ma’am or no ma’am to your mother. For those still in uniform it is a “requirement”, for those that are no longer in uniform it is a “no brainer”. In the civilian world it is a mark of a mature person with the confidence and abilities of a veteran.
I will be able to identify you as a veteran by your military bearing (courtesy), you display in most everything you do, if you let me. In our present society if I had to choose between two people for anything with all things being equal I will ALLWAYS opt to the veteran. You put on our uniform and raised your right hand that speaks volumes to me.
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Much as I agree with COL Jason Smallfield, PMP, CFM, CM, there are those who are clearly here to browbeat other to their point of view. In general, they are extremely liberal, for example a certain SGT who lives in Europe and a CPT who is a gun hating fanatic.
Respect breeds respect, but then so does disrespect. It's one thing to have a discussion, and quite another to spread propaganda and block anyone who dares to disagree with you.
This is NOT a military site, and military courtesy aside, if you aren't planning on respecting me, don't expect any respect in return.
Respect breeds respect, but then so does disrespect. It's one thing to have a discussion, and quite another to spread propaganda and block anyone who dares to disagree with you.
This is NOT a military site, and military courtesy aside, if you aren't planning on respecting me, don't expect any respect in return.
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I do, even if it's not required of me. Do I address Veterans by their former rank? I do not, but I always go out of my way to be courteous.
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To answer your question bluntly, no.
To expand on that, as COL Smallfield has mentioned, professional courtesy should be given. This is a public forum for veterans as well as active service members. If you start on the C&C train, your bound to lose interest because then, (I believe) it ends up acting more and more like being (back) in the military and not a connection HUB, but a mandated source.
To expand on that, as COL Smallfield has mentioned, professional courtesy should be given. This is a public forum for veterans as well as active service members. If you start on the C&C train, your bound to lose interest because then, (I believe) it ends up acting more and more like being (back) in the military and not a connection HUB, but a mandated source.
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Being polite and respectful, yes. As for customs and courtesies, most retirees usually say sit/ma'am out of habit and respect even though it is not required. That is being human. As a retired member I personally don't mind if some one calls me Rob, Sir, or even Sergeant.
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Why would you not extend courtesies to those that out rank you? I am retired and I still find myself addressing officers and NCOs that out ranked me either by their rank or sir. I think it is a sign of respect.
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Being a southern gent and being raised as I was mam and sir rolled out of my mouth from day one. Now as I get older I do it less but do consider it in every sentence even to someone of lower rank just to show respect. I have been out of military since 1987 of course so the edge has worn off but the pride and respect will always be there.
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