Should military members be separated/discharged for refusing the COVID vaccinations?

No physician would ever state anyone has natural immunity to anything I still remember anthrax

SFC (Verify To See) looks to me like you've disproved yourself there bucko, I mean sarnt

I'm also naturally immune to COVID but not to BS. The shot saved me a ton of the latter.

SSgt David Wilkins time put there buddy. Yes, some vaccines do give a degree of permanent protection. The flu is a type of Corona virus and you get a new shot every year to help you fight the current varient out there. As anyone that has had the flu and the shot will tell you, it is not a 100% take it to the bank promise that you will not get the flu. As for refusing the Vax, I have no sympathy for those that refused for anything other than a legitimate religious or health reason. I had to get the anthrax Vax while I was in or get out. It was a lawful order and we are charged with obeying the lawful order of those above us, not just the ones we agree with.

agreed, refusing vaccinations makes you non worldwide deployable, instant discharge under administrative reasons at the least.

Separate a healthy servicemember for not volunteering to accept an emergency decree vaccine for a condition which the servicemember is not even an identified high risk group for complications or severe sickness, a condition which the servicemember's age group has a 99+% recovery? Sounds like there is something political going at the top leadership level, not well proven medical decisions.

CPT Patrick Butler - SFC Kelly Fuerhoff is a #bot, he Down votes without a justification-- knowing the system doesn't provide a call to his bullshit mechanism. Guess the SFC does not like it when facts prove him wrong.

I just don't understand the "whole" religious exemption thing. I started out as a Catholic in my early life , was raised Presbyterian, went to a Baptist school and am now a Pentecostal in my beliefs. NO where in the Bible, you know that book of regs the Christians go by does it says that " thou shalt not be vaccinated" I don't know what "religion" is being claimed, but I don't see anything mainstream Christianity across mainstream denominations that says or dictates that one should not be vaccinated.

Nope SFC, I was wrong, so before you can put me in check, I will admit it outright, so I apologize for that accusation - I made a mistake. However, I was correct about cuckoo being the proper spelling, and I stand by my statement that all the left knows how to do is call names and post accusations because there are no factual supports. Just because somebody has an opinion different from yours doesn't make them a moron, a nut job, a cuckoo, a racist, a homophobe, or any other of the names the left has. That's why the left hates Trump so much, because he plays the same game they do, and they don't like it.

there is really no need for the military to comment on the senseless religious exemption requests....if they didn't request exemptions from the couple dozen other shots they had to get....it is proof their requests are politically motivated and not based on their religion.

Okay PV2, you performed your little rant, you did your name calling - Good Liberal. How about discussing facts. He started the boarder wall, which he had to fight the libs for more than 2 years. He set up operation WARP Speed for vaccinations against COVID, which your party ended up using its dictatorial power over service members and government workers who lost their job. The best part is, the doctors, nurses, first responders who were praised and heralded for their bravery, only to have, a year later, empowered Democrats telling them to get the vaccine or lose your job. Even though these people put their lives on the line every single day. Nice way to reward their real bravery. Natural Immunity is THE BEST fight against the virus. Putin ass kissing? That's nothing but conjecture. Now, what about Hunter getting millions of dollars from the wife of the Mayor of Moscow, or a $60,000 a month job for which he admittedly wasn't qualified, or the multi billion dollar deal he set with China, using Air Force 2? And your president who said multiple times (Look it up yourself, it's out there) that he never met any of the people Hunter did business with, yet there are pictures of him with these people. The White House won't answer any questions about these individual's that signed in to the White House visitors log. Why has Biden not been to Ukraine? Most of the other world's leaders have been there. If you truly want to discuss how much was done by Trump, overseas trips, Bills signed, the economy, the improvements for minorities working status, home buyers, supply chains, oil prices, bringing jobs back from China, and on and on, I will debate you with facts all day long. So, all you have to go with is conjecture, diatribes, name-calling and all the typical liberal tactical strategies, just remember what your current president said, "We Believe in Truth over facts." (08/08/2019 - Iowa). Pontius Pilate asked Jesus Christ, what is truth? The Romans, the Jews, and Jesus and his followers all had their own truths. It didn't mean one truth was greater than the other, but Facts are Facts and are indisputable.

Get a GRIP pal , neither Left nor Right but Forward. Vietnam Combat Veteran " 3/39 B CO 9TH INF DIV.

SMSgt Anil Heendeniya must be an Army thing because navy medicine doesn’t give the individual a copy of their shot record

SSgt Christophe Murphy - I don't know how the Army does things. I'm US Air Force retired. When I was stationed in Madrid, Spain as the Squadron Medical Element of the 613th Tactical Fighter Squadron, I handled the annual shot series for all the pilots, navigators, and the rest of the personnel in the unit. There was one self-described "macho top gun" pilot--a stocky, belligerent guy--who turned to mush when that day came around. Of all the thousands of shots I gave over those years, he was the only one who turned into a mushy crybaby when faced with a tiny 23 guage needle. So annually, he was the squadron toad.

SSgt Christophe Murphy - seems odd with todays computers they wouldn't have a record readily available...20 years ago the Air Force had them all computerized and you could request a printout which was legally binding incase someone in the command messed up and lost your records

TSgt James Sutton there is a digitized record now but 20 years ago they still relied heavily on shot cards. Even with a digitized records a paper shot card follows you until that information is transferred over to the database.

Even with a digital database things can be “lost” or deleted. Which is my point.

Wow
There orders and there are legal orders
Way to many sheep in the military today

MSG Reid Zohfeld - Thank you for your support

odd...75 year seal huh? mRNA is new and hasn't been around that long....75 years ago you are talking WW2 timeframe....get your facts straight with your conspiracy theories.

TSgt James Sutton
Wow, not well read, that's ok, Pfizer filed for and was approved to SEAL all records of their research & rhe results of their testing for the Covid & mRNA for Seventy-five years. The circuit Court over turned this ruling & they now have to release 10,000 pages per Month, do yourself a favor read the cliff notes from the 1st document release & then maybe you'll get an idea of what is truly going on. I'm not trying to be mean but I'd like you to be informed. My statements are based in fact obtained directly from Pfizer the mRNA resesrcher & manufacturer who has made billions & is now forced to expose what their in-house research results were & evently currently are.

so much ignorance, you should all go take a biology class and get half a clue, and stop listening to political idiots who have even less of a clue and just want some political shenanigans to pursue to get them elected...has nothing to do with your health for them...they could care less...all of them.

TSgt James Sutton - hopefully one day they’ll come up with a “vaccine” to cure you from the effects of all the “Kool-Aid” you’ve been drinking.

What a nice story you tell
The flu shot was never offered or required in the 70’s
The propaganda machine is in full speed

MSG Reid Zohfeld - yeah that is because different policy makers in the DOD and improved shots since then and improved research showing it is not only safe but extremely effective...you are comparing apples and oranges

If we are going to talk non-deployable…open the gates. I sought a waiver for my non-world wife condition developed while on Active Duty yet, as a medical provider, I watched week after week as people came in looking to get C-coded. I also watched repeat deployments multiply for those world wide qualified or waivers for world wide qualification as others were more than willing to ride the bench. Especially is specialty codes designed for deployability and force multiplying, non-deployable should be a ticket out. Of course, we don’t enforce all of the regs fairly. If the vaccine exception served a PR or political goal, I’m certain those exceptions would be made and pasted across headlines.

Nonsense!

so you say they have the right to refuse a proven safe vaccine because of their illogical and proven false beliefs that it is unsafe and might harm them? so you would trust that same person to carry a gun and defend you?

not true, less testing was done on the Anthrax vaccine and it was pushed through, some tried to not take it and were removed from service....wonder why the religious objectors didn't object to that shot? I mean they used the same approval and development processes.

TSgt James Sutton - really? You’re telling me that the Anthrax vaccine was invented and tested for less than a year before it was forced on anyone? To put it as nicely as possible, that just plain stupid.

The data claimed to show the incidence of testicular cancer had risen by 395%, the incidence of oesophageal cancer had risen by 894% and the incidence of breast cancer had risen 487%.

Dr Gorski wrote: “Cancer is the culmination of a process that, in general, takes years, from the initial insult that resulted in cellular transformation to the development of a cancerous tumor detectable by symptoms, physical exam, or screening tests.

“Even if there had been a spike in these cancers from roughly four- to ten-fold in just one year (for an overall increase in total cancer diagnoses from 36,050 to 114,645 from 2020 to 2021), it could not possibly have been due to [...] COVID-19 vaccines.”

you should really read up on the data you are presenting as facts supporting your hypothesis and then do a basic gut fact check on it...cancer takes years to develop and could not have been caused by Covid....but hey if it floats your boat and makes you sleep better at night go ahead and believe whatever you want.

TSgt James Sutton - For what it is worth, take it for truth of fake, matters not to me. https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-the-pentagons-response-to-the-explosive-dod-medical-data-is-an-even-bigger-story-than-the-data

SFC Lyle Green - https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/this-medical-data-from-the-us-dod?s=r