Posted on Feb 7, 2022
Should military members be separated/discharged for refusing the COVID vaccinations?
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Many have applied for a religious exemption. Based on recent reports many of these requests have not been ruled on, yet soldiers and sailors are being discharged.
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I am a warrior of the gulf war veteran; and also a man of faith in God. I favor receiving the covid vaccinations to all members of the DOD. But I think that this should not be mandatory or impose to the warriors that refuse the covid vaccinations. They should be advise of the consequent of not receiving the vaccination shot; and let them served there country; under there only risk. God Bless America.
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SFC Howard Holmes
Did you ever get any of the Anthrax vaccines? I highly doubt you did. If you can find the time to do some research rather than coming on here and writing smack to conservatives, you would see what a horrible decision it was for them to make soldiers and Marines take that vaccine. BTW, it was no where near 100%, not even 90, 80, or even 70% at stopping the spread. The age group of the average military member was at less than 1/2 of 1% at risk of death from COVID. Check out the heart problems it can cause in young men. What's amazing to me is you claim to be conservative, yet, of what I've read, all of your attacks are on people with conservative thought, AND you tell everyone to do their research, yet I have not found one instance where you stake claims, but don't provide any substantiative sources yourself. Quite amazing.
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SSgt Ricardo Lugo
SFC Howard Holmes Your opinion is receive with respect; please respect the opinion of other warriors that have serve with honor and bravery. Pursuit of happiness under God. God Bless America.
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SFC Howard Holmes
I truly respect that SSG Lugo, what you need to do, however, is read how TSgt. Sutton addresses people who disagree with him. He calls them names, and insinuates that they're uneducated and stirs up garbage. He inferred I was uneducated and I only get my info from Fox News and conservative media. When I provided him proof of my statements from left of center resources, he came back with an attack without addressing the issue or refute the info I provided him. Then when I tried to ignore him, he posted about how I'm not responding to him. I'm not too proud to walk away from a fight, but if I keep getting poked, I will dish out the same medicine trying to be fed to me. I am not the only one which he does this, as I always try to support my statements with non-biased facts. I am not the only one he does this to. Please go and read what he writes not only to me, but to others. Again SSG., overall you are correct, but in that individual I don't see where he respects the opinion of others, or serves with honor or bravery.
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Amn Kenneth Shostad
TSgt James Sutton - That is an outright LIE, it isn't effective at all, in fact over 12 million people have died from the vaccine, that is 40 times the number that is reported that died from the so-called virus.
furthermore, less than 1% have been reported that died from the JAB, and those that died from the so-called virus, have all died from the normal cold and flu as both of those numbers seemed to have been lessened by 100's of thousands since the virus.
furthermore, less than 1% have been reported that died from the JAB, and those that died from the so-called virus, have all died from the normal cold and flu as both of those numbers seemed to have been lessened by 100's of thousands since the virus.
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USN hasn't givren a R.E. since 2015! WTH? Can the whole bunch, pull some retirments and send them to the dugout. Army has been very slow as well. Unsure on others. Since USMC and CG are Navy property same applies there too.
Like Mr. Rick Scott, TX has authored, Return all to duty who were discharged and prevcent any more discharges except The Sink and the Draino-squids!
Like Mr. Rick Scott, TX has authored, Return all to duty who were discharged and prevcent any more discharges except The Sink and the Draino-squids!
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TSgt James Sutton
Marines have requested a total of 3,595 religious exemptions, according to the latest data from the Marine Corps. As of this week, 640 Marines have been separated from the service for refusing the lawful order to receive a vaccine.
The Air Force has approved a total of nine exemptions and rejected 3,381. Another 2,664 requests are still pending. The Air Force has separated 160 service members for refusing the vaccine.
The Navy has received 3,369 religious exemption requests, but none have been approved, according to data released by the service. A total of 247 active duty sailors and one reserve sailor have been separated for refusing the vaccine. There were another 22 entry-level separations for those refusing the vaccine within their first 180 days of active duty.
The Army has received 3,088 religious exemptions requests and granted zero of them. The Army only recently put into place its separation policy and has not yet discharged anyone for refusing the vaccine, according to the latest data.
The Air Force has approved a total of nine exemptions and rejected 3,381. Another 2,664 requests are still pending. The Air Force has separated 160 service members for refusing the vaccine.
The Navy has received 3,369 religious exemption requests, but none have been approved, according to data released by the service. A total of 247 active duty sailors and one reserve sailor have been separated for refusing the vaccine. There were another 22 entry-level separations for those refusing the vaccine within their first 180 days of active duty.
The Army has received 3,088 religious exemptions requests and granted zero of them. The Army only recently put into place its separation policy and has not yet discharged anyone for refusing the vaccine, according to the latest data.
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When entering the service, you walk down a line and get two shots in each arm. They are given to protect you and others around you. What makes the covid shot different from yellow fever or any of the rest of them? When did us as service members get to say we will take this shot and not that shot? Discharge anybody who doesn't take the shot. Totally self centered that you get to spread covid around with care needed for you and others you infect without the shot. What a bunch of morons!
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TSgt James Sutton
SFC Howard Holmes - not saying you cannot get it, the odds of getting it and getting sick are MUCH MUCH lower...that is a fact proven by decades of research and every other more dangerous disease we have eliminated with vaccines in the past.
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SFC Howard Holmes
TSgt James Sutton - Yes Tsgt. Sutton, you do a wonderful job of making a fool of yourself on social media. Along with making a fool of yourself, you are a sheep, so leave the Air Force, they look for leaders. You honestly believe what they've been feeding you? Do some more research about how some of the Pharma are now admitting to holding back data because it may have skewed public perception. Your comment about the disease mutating because people DID NOT get the shots is really ignorant. A virus evolves to survive. If it is in a host that it can fully attack without resistance does not evolve. Since you like calling names like a good liberal does, why don't you take a cross country trip in your clown car. And NO, the odds of military members not suffering great effects of the illness is due to age and physical fitness, not the vaccine. One last thing, the success of vaccines you mentioned were studied over elongated periods of time and were actually and officially approved by the FDA. They ordered these vaccines to the military without any long-term studies, or being approved by the FDA, so it doesn't meet the same criterium of the other vaccines. So Hop in your little car and start in Florida and visit the old clown college.
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SFC Howard Holmes
MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi - Yes they will MSgt., and do it without questioning it. If one looks at how hard the politicians pushed this, it was like nothing I've ever seen, and it didn't even go through the necessary testing to get FDA certification. Then, for the Sect. of Def to make this a REQUIREMENT, there is a money trail some where. I've never heard of a vaccine that doesn't prevent getting, or passing on a disease so heavily mandated. Recruiters are having a hell of a time fulfilling numbers, and they've even raised enlistment bonuses to $50K, but they will kick out soldiers, sailors, Marines and air men. Service members who are already trained, qualified and serving. All of that over those who are the least vulnerable to COVID not taking the vaccine. People hailed in 2020 as heroes, and I agree. The nurses and doctors literally going head on into the storm treating those infected by a disease that nobody knew with any accuracy, long term effects, or the velocity in which they can pass it on, or themselves die. Yet, in 2021 they were demonized and even fired from their jobs. It's too bad we don't have an honest media who will dig to find that money trail, because I'm certain it's there, and it's thick, and pockets are well lined with and by it.
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Amn Kenneth Shostad
BRAINWASHED persons should really not watch anymore CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc... Propaganda networks as they are reducing their mental functions...
Do your own research, they are not hiding what they are doing, Agenda 2030, op Lockstep, etc...
Think for yourself, do what is right for you and yours...
GOD Bless ALL of the Patriots of the World fighting the Globalists, LORD please put a hedge of Protection around us ALL... AMEN...
Do your own research, they are not hiding what they are doing, Agenda 2030, op Lockstep, etc...
Think for yourself, do what is right for you and yours...
GOD Bless ALL of the Patriots of the World fighting the Globalists, LORD please put a hedge of Protection around us ALL... AMEN...
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If the jobama cabal would allow the use of GENUINE treatments, like IVERMECTIN, we'd knock this crap out and be done with it. Instead, they lie about the therapeutics and try to force the acceptance of "vaccines" with questionable efficacy and strongly indicated harm. Support the Canadian truckers and all other anti-vax movements.
With all of the heart attacks, strokes, etc, happening to the victims of the "Vaccine mandates", tell jobama and his cabal to GET VAXXED!!!
With all of the heart attacks, strokes, etc, happening to the victims of the "Vaccine mandates", tell jobama and his cabal to GET VAXXED!!!
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SFC Howard Holmes
You're right Sgt. Regan, I'd rather listen to the Marxist Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, or the people who have defunded police and allowed ANTIFA and other Marxist groups cause billions of dollars in damage during rioting in 2020. I would also like to listen to Maxine Waters who yells about the lives of African Americans living in poverty as she lives in a multi-million dollar mansion, or the Obamas who the former president was a 'community activist' for the plight of African Americans in Chicago. Yet, under his presidency, hundreds and hundreds of African Americans died in Chicago - actually, at the time, in record numbers. Now we know how oppressed they are in their $15 million mansion in that great racial melting pot of Martha's Vineyard, which I think now the African American population is 2. I guess oppression isn't too bad when voted in president twice, and living in a $15 Million mansion amongst all of the oppressors. How about that multi-million dollar mansion they are now building in Hawaii. I think that a $10 Million mansion would've been more than enough, and how ever many millions the one in Hawaii could've been a little less. I'm certain some of those millions going back to the of which they advocated for could've gone a long way. Do you know that he's never even been back to those neighborhoods. It's a lot easier to talk and do nothing to support it, just as long as they get people to buy in their words. Words without deeds equate to NOTHING. At least Hannity and Prager don't claim to be (or be for) something they have no intention on doing anything about.
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I stand by my initial opinion. There's a reason people subvert the spelling of "FAUX" news.
And honestly, what makes you think your heroes aren't living the life you accuse others of pursuing? It sounds like the position you have taken is one of the loudest bears the least (context/content). :) Look it up.
And honestly, what makes you think your heroes aren't living the life you accuse others of pursuing? It sounds like the position you have taken is one of the loudest bears the least (context/content). :) Look it up.
SPC Robert McElreath
Don't forget, people, I'm not some theorist who says,"Theoretically, Ivormectin SHOULD be effective against the chicom virus!"! The "Li'l Corporal" and I were "at death's door", me more than she and between God and the Ivormectin protocol were snatched back, to be walkin', talkin', livin', breathin' PROOF that:A) The Ivormectin WORKS and B) The gov't is LYING about it. There's an old saying, "You can argue with anything but SUCCESS!!!" AND I'll amend that to state unequivocally, "Unless you are a LIAR or STOOOOOPID!!!!" SO, if there's a harmless alternative to "the jab", to which a lot of people have objections, why not just USE it, unless your purpose isn't saving people, but SUBJUGATING THEM??????? Answer me THAT, oh "jab" supporting SHEEEEEEPLE???? Still independent, still strong MSG Mack Ca. State Mil. Res. (Ret)
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TSgt James Sutton
SFC Howard Holmes - dont forget about the right wing fascists caught by the FBI who were pretending to be Antifa....oh wait there is no such group as Antifa according to DHS (yes the one under Trump said that) but there is a group called Proud Boys and for some reason they are in prison for treasonous acts against the USA....beware who you are supporting and calling enemies of the country lol...if you support a fascist...well guess what that makes you?
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You should take the shot, you are in the military and follow orders and take the shot. Semper Fi
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In the discussions I've had with others related to the Covid vaccine, those in favor of the vaccine, and those opposed to the vaccine, seem to divide along political lines. That's something the military cannot allow to guide the national security agenda. But if opposition to the vaccine is predicated on religious reasons, keep in mind that our military service has always been contingent upon a willingness to enter into lethal combat with another human being. When we enter the military, we must be prepared to park our political and moral code at the curb. My NCO (E6) in Vietnam met, and married, a woman who brought him "Heart and soul", into the faith. He applied for, and was granted, CO (Conscientious Objector) status. But it was made clear to him that his next "Re-Up" would be denied.
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Regardless of your opinion of the vaccine or my opinion of the vaccine, the actual question has nothing to do with the vaccine.
The real question is SHOULD MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS BE SEPARATED/DISCHARGED FOR REFUSING TO OBEY A LAWFUL ORDER?
Whether that order made good sense is immaterial -- service members don't get to pick and choose which lawful orders they are expected to obey.
The real question is SHOULD MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS BE SEPARATED/DISCHARGED FOR REFUSING TO OBEY A LAWFUL ORDER?
Whether that order made good sense is immaterial -- service members don't get to pick and choose which lawful orders they are expected to obey.
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Only responding cause the "Thumbs Down" button is a joke. But to question why religious exemption isn't used with prior vaccinations is because they weren't made from the cells of dead Festus. And yes this is factual. But to discharge trained and qualified military members is equivalent to no different than Hitler's third Reich where they al had to step in line or else. Perhaps the question should be posted "Where is the Leadership to put an end to the Social Engineering experiments we now have in the military."
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Emphatic NO. Covid vac is experimental fast tracted for use and now proven in effective. Wise not to trust political activated vac and natural immunity has been proven
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