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The proliferation of questions about saluting leads to this comment, based on models from the French Foreign Legion and even the Korean Army, where soldiers once saluted all NCOs of a higher rank. If the salute is a form of respect and courtesy, and if NCOs are in fact "officers" without a commission, would such a thing be disruptive, silly, or a new respectful tradition? American Soldiers do, at times, salute NCOs in formations, promotion boards, etc.
Customs and Courtesies
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Edited 11 y ago
Posted 11 y ago
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After 31 years and 29.5 being and NCO I would say that the due respect came as Soldiers (usually) respectfully address the most senior and those that the are familiar with. For me the traditions should remain, the military has made too many changes in the past five years greatly affecting policy and tradition. The collective heritage of the NCO Corp in all services is stand alone, ad distinct from the Officer Corp. Having said all of this I would defer to the current senior leadership!
To take the opportunity; I wold only hope and PRAY that we do not stray too far down a path of political correctness.
To take the opportunity; I wold only hope and PRAY that we do not stray too far down a path of political correctness.
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MSG John Wirts
By my calculations we already have! When I joined there were strict military courtesy rules, there were strict rules for enlisted reporting to an NCO, for reporting to Senior NCO's, reporting to a Warrant officer, and reporting to an officer. Passing any of the above had its own curtsies. if we were working the senior member of the work party, or the NCO in charge rendered courtesy for the party. This was not only in training but in permanent duty station. We were also taught not to render open courtesies when in tactical situations. We had EM Clubs, NCO Clubs, Senior NCO Clubs, and Officer Clubs. Now we're lucky to have a base with a club on it. Courtesies when I'm on a bsast I don't see any courtesies rendered outside formations.
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Absolutely not, if you want to get saluted then become an officer. There is a certain pride in being called a Non Commissioned Officer. Every Soldier from the Army Chief of Staff to the newest Private has been trained, and or molded by an NCO. Personally I don't need to be saluted to know what kind of leader I am. Looking back over my 22 years of service to see the junior platoon leaders of yesterday I onced trained and develope into outstanding battalion and brigade commanders today let me know what kind of professional I am and what kind of leader I helped grow. So you can keep your salute, I'll keep training leaders.
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Absolutely not, if you want to be saluted, become an officer. There is a certain pride about being a NCO. Every Soldier from the Army Chief of Staff to the newest Privite has been trained by an NCO. Good Non Commisioned Officers do not need to be saluted to know they are professionals, ledgndary leaders of military history such as Patton, Eisenhower, Bradly and the current Army CoS, Gen. Miley let us know we are. Let the officers keep the salute, I'll keep training them.
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