Posted on Jul 15, 2016
Should Obama declare war with Islamic Terrorists?
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
LTC (Join to see) - Then why are so many members of Congress on TV this AM calling for a State of War against Islamic Terrorists?? Maybe Nice got their attention??
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SSgt Ryan Sylvester
Sgt Tom Cunnally - No, it's so they can appear tough on a group that even attacks us here at home, while not actually doing anything about it more than dropping a few bombs occasionally. Gotta work that fear-and-assurances vote from the sheeple.
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Maj Ken Brown
It is quite clear the Islamic extremism has declared war on the West. We should become the hunter and not the hunted: how?
The president customarily asks Congress for a declaration of war, but the Constitution says that the authority to declare war resides in Congress. It has occurred to me that most Americans and their elected representatives would rather avoid these issues than take action. We're too busy with Pokémon, texting while driving, partying, and making money to upset the apple cart with anything as barbaric (shudder) as openly declared warfare on a non-nation entity which hides in failed states and uses assassin tactics: Old Man of the Mountain: look him up.
We should quit kidding ourselves, our forte is not negotiations. What we're good at is combat operations. Maybe we should grow a pair.
The president customarily asks Congress for a declaration of war, but the Constitution says that the authority to declare war resides in Congress. It has occurred to me that most Americans and their elected representatives would rather avoid these issues than take action. We're too busy with Pokémon, texting while driving, partying, and making money to upset the apple cart with anything as barbaric (shudder) as openly declared warfare on a non-nation entity which hides in failed states and uses assassin tactics: Old Man of the Mountain: look him up.
We should quit kidding ourselves, our forte is not negotiations. What we're good at is combat operations. Maybe we should grow a pair.
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Capt Chris McVeigh
Congress has a long history of not wanting to declare war. It is a large responsibility, and they seem to prefer playing political back and forth games, occasionally authorizing funding but not declaring war. The last formal declaration of war was WWII, so I wouldn't hold your breath for one on the Islamic State.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
Sgt Tom Cunnally - true, maybe we should only pay them for the time they are actually doing anything.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth - A few members of congress are voicing their support to do more to combat Terrorism but again they are just all talk and no action.
The tragedy in Nice France has really shook up our government so let see if there is any leadership to get the Muslims States and NATO more involved in the so called war against Islamic Jihardists..
The tragedy in Nice France has really shook up our government so let see if there is any leadership to get the Muslims States and NATO more involved in the so called war against Islamic Jihardists..
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"A theme of President Barack Obama's counterterrorism policy has been a relentless narrowing of focus. Under his watch, the U.S. has not been at war with terror or radical Islam. It has been in discrete conflicts with al-Qaida's core leadership and its affiliate in Yemen and the Islamic State. And while Obama's war has waxed and waned, he has never explained its disparate parts as a whole the way his predecessor did.
Michael Flynn, who served as Obama's second Defense Intelligence Agency director, takes the opposite view. "Field of Fight," a new book Flynn co-wrote with historian Michael Ledeen, argues that America is up against a global alliance between radical jihadis and anti-American nation states like Russia, Cuba and North Korea. They say this war will last at least a generation. And they say it will require outside ground forces to go after al-Qaida and the Islamic State as well as a sustained information campaign to discredit the ideology of radical Islam.
One might think a big war is a quaint throwback to the era after 9/11 when George W. Bush delivered his speech about the "axis of evil." But Flynn is very much a man of the moment. Over the weekend, The Washington Post reported this former special operations officer and three-star general was Donald Trump's leading choice for vice president. At the very least he has the real-estate mogul's ear when it comes to national security."
Source: Eli Lake USA Today
And I agree 100% with Lt General Flynn who is calling for a declaration of war with Islamic Terrorism and a plan to defeat it before we have more attacks on our homeland
Michael Flynn, who served as Obama's second Defense Intelligence Agency director, takes the opposite view. "Field of Fight," a new book Flynn co-wrote with historian Michael Ledeen, argues that America is up against a global alliance between radical jihadis and anti-American nation states like Russia, Cuba and North Korea. They say this war will last at least a generation. And they say it will require outside ground forces to go after al-Qaida and the Islamic State as well as a sustained information campaign to discredit the ideology of radical Islam.
One might think a big war is a quaint throwback to the era after 9/11 when George W. Bush delivered his speech about the "axis of evil." But Flynn is very much a man of the moment. Over the weekend, The Washington Post reported this former special operations officer and three-star general was Donald Trump's leading choice for vice president. At the very least he has the real-estate mogul's ear when it comes to national security."
Source: Eli Lake USA Today
And I agree 100% with Lt General Flynn who is calling for a declaration of war with Islamic Terrorism and a plan to defeat it before we have more attacks on our homeland
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
Capt Lance Gallardo - I think Obama will do nothing but pass this onto the Hillary Clinton Administration when she and Bill move back into their White House again. And they will be too busy renting out the Lincoln Bedroom and pulling in more big bucks for their foundation. And Hillary has some huge legal fees to pay down...And Congress will not touch this when they get back from vacation because they want to hold more hearings trying to nail Hillary again...
Remember you saw it here first...!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember you saw it here first...!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Capt Lance Gallardo
Sgt Tom Cunnally - I think Congress on its can declare war on ISIS and all of its members without Presidential Cooperation. Obama has been horrible in setting the tone or leading the Country in this war against Evil Islamic Fundamentalist terrorists, whom he can not even name correctly.
I wish Congress would consider drafting up articles of impeachment against him, or at least a no confidence vote at the minimum over his lack of leadership in the War on Islamic Terrorism. Bill Clinton got impeached over a BJ and lying about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States
I wish Congress would consider drafting up articles of impeachment against him, or at least a no confidence vote at the minimum over his lack of leadership in the War on Islamic Terrorism. Bill Clinton got impeached over a BJ and lying about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States
Declaration of war by the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A declaration of war is a formal declaration issued by a national government indicating that a state of war exists between that nation and another. The document Declarations of War and Authorizations for the Use of Military Force: Historical Background and Legal Implications gives an extensive listing and summary of statutes which are automatically engaged upon the US declaring war.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
Capt Lance Gallardo - You have a lot of retired Army Generals who fully agree with you and a few of us old and I mean really old Jarheads . I'm the team leader at the Dunkin Donuts Coffee Shop Old Jarheads Club in Foxboro MA.
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Capt Lance Gallardo
The Old Breed are the best. You old Marines, have a way of cutting thorough the BS. and getting right to the heart of the matter. Does our country and our people still have the fighting spirit to produce they type of Men that took on the Japs and the Nazis in a two front war 70 years ago or not?
Have our people gone soft with too many material comforts and "things" or are we willing to accept the gift of hardships that made the Greatest Generation "great" like the Depression and hunger and tough times?
Have our people gone soft with too many material comforts and "things" or are we willing to accept the gift of hardships that made the Greatest Generation "great" like the Depression and hunger and tough times?
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Terrorism is much more abstract than people think. It has no borders, no centralized government, no uniforms, and no clear target, which make is difficult to fight. In many ways you are fighting an ideology, and a mindset; there is no diplomatic route to resolution, so there has to be another way.
In regions where a lot of terrorists come from there are generations of hate towards the US or the West in general, and that breeds what we are seeing all too often today. What a lot of people don't see or understand (or don't want to) is that Bombing, war, destruction is not the only way to stabilizing relations in that region, but the humanitarian efforts that we are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq, possibly will help pave the way towards some sort of peace between us. This is playing the 'long game' and while the 'short game' will deal more immediate results it will do nothing to ease the resentment they have towards us, it will instead continue to fuel their resolve
In regions where a lot of terrorists come from there are generations of hate towards the US or the West in general, and that breeds what we are seeing all too often today. What a lot of people don't see or understand (or don't want to) is that Bombing, war, destruction is not the only way to stabilizing relations in that region, but the humanitarian efforts that we are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq, possibly will help pave the way towards some sort of peace between us. This is playing the 'long game' and while the 'short game' will deal more immediate results it will do nothing to ease the resentment they have towards us, it will instead continue to fuel their resolve
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One issue: in January, the Senate deliberately refused to act on President Obama's request for authorization for the use of force under the War Powers Act to explicitly fight ISIS.
Instead, the existing US authorization for its current use of force is based on a broad interpretation of the 2003 authorization - 13 years ago.
Instead, the existing US authorization for its current use of force is based on a broad interpretation of the 2003 authorization - 13 years ago.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
LTC (Join to see) - Ok thanx but they are about to leave for 7 week. Should Obama call them back to declare a state of war vs Islamic Jihadists??
Generals Keane and Flynn think he should They are both pissed with the lack of action by Obama
Generals Keane and Flynn think he should They are both pissed with the lack of action by Obama
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COL Korey Jackson
Perhaps this issue should be added to the Republican Party Platform, which is to be ratified at the Republican National Convention next week.
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SPC James Harsh
He should of consulted with congress in early endeavors instead of using NATO and citing War Power Act. Maybe the POTUS should go get some approval from NATO.
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COL Korey Jackson
SPC James Harsh,
The NATO Summit was held just last week in Warsaw; indeed, President Obama left the Summit a day early because of domestic issues (tragedies marked by Baton Rouge, Minnesota, & Dallas).
NATO heads of state did have this topic high on their agenda. Their official communique stated:
Allies confront a wide range of terrorist challenges that pose a direct threat to the security of our populations, and to international stability and prosperity more broadly. In the past months, we have faced terrible terrorist attacks on our soils and in our cities. In particular, ISIL/Da’esh poses a grave threat to the wider Middle East and North Africa region and to our own nations. In response, all NATO Allies and many NATO partners are contributing to the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL. Thanks to that determined action, the Global Coalition campaign has made considerable progress, building on our experience in working together and with partners in NATO-led operations, training, and exercises. ISIL/Da’esh is losing territory, control of strategic supply routes and resources, as well as its leaders, fighters, and followers. To ensure ISIL/Da’esh’s lasting defeat, our nations remain committed to sustaining the momentum and work of the Global Coalition. In this context, it is important for the Iraqi authorities to continue to promote policies to ensure inclusivity at all levels of government, including the defence and security forces. We also recognise that an effective and enduring fight against ISIL/Da’esh in Syria will only be possible with a legitimate government in place, and stress the need for an immediate and genuine political transition in this country. We condemn ISIL/Da’esh's unrelenting barbaric attacks against all civilian populations, in particular the systematic and deliberate targeting of entire religious and ethnic communities. We also condemn in the strongest terms ISIL/Da’esh’s violent and cowardly acts in Allied territory. If the security of any Ally is threatened, we will not hesitate to take all necessary steps to ensure our collective defence. In light of the dramatic humanitarian consequences of this crisis and its repercussions on regional stability and security, Allies are offering security and humanitarian assistance across the region.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_133169.htm
The NATO Summit was held just last week in Warsaw; indeed, President Obama left the Summit a day early because of domestic issues (tragedies marked by Baton Rouge, Minnesota, & Dallas).
NATO heads of state did have this topic high on their agenda. Their official communique stated:
Allies confront a wide range of terrorist challenges that pose a direct threat to the security of our populations, and to international stability and prosperity more broadly. In the past months, we have faced terrible terrorist attacks on our soils and in our cities. In particular, ISIL/Da’esh poses a grave threat to the wider Middle East and North Africa region and to our own nations. In response, all NATO Allies and many NATO partners are contributing to the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL. Thanks to that determined action, the Global Coalition campaign has made considerable progress, building on our experience in working together and with partners in NATO-led operations, training, and exercises. ISIL/Da’esh is losing territory, control of strategic supply routes and resources, as well as its leaders, fighters, and followers. To ensure ISIL/Da’esh’s lasting defeat, our nations remain committed to sustaining the momentum and work of the Global Coalition. In this context, it is important for the Iraqi authorities to continue to promote policies to ensure inclusivity at all levels of government, including the defence and security forces. We also recognise that an effective and enduring fight against ISIL/Da’esh in Syria will only be possible with a legitimate government in place, and stress the need for an immediate and genuine political transition in this country. We condemn ISIL/Da’esh's unrelenting barbaric attacks against all civilian populations, in particular the systematic and deliberate targeting of entire religious and ethnic communities. We also condemn in the strongest terms ISIL/Da’esh’s violent and cowardly acts in Allied territory. If the security of any Ally is threatened, we will not hesitate to take all necessary steps to ensure our collective defence. In light of the dramatic humanitarian consequences of this crisis and its repercussions on regional stability and security, Allies are offering security and humanitarian assistance across the region.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_133169.htm
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Unless I'm mistaken, we are still mired in the GWOT. ISIS are terrorists, hence we they should fall under that umbrella.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
Hillary says "Once again our thoughts and prayers are with the people of France" Loretta Lynch will once again caution us about rushing to judgement ...Trump keeps saying " I told you so" and widens his lead in the polls. Congressional Democrats will blame the NRA/ weapons in the hands of the wrong people.
No wonder Generals like Lt General Flynn are so pissed off ..& some of us lowly old Jarheads.
No wonder Generals like Lt General Flynn are so pissed off ..& some of us lowly old Jarheads.
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Was it in 2012 I saw on the news the coverage of Syria. Journalists and independent footage surface of the people pleading for the USA to help them, meanwhile we helped Libya. I don't know those people but images of civilians getting stacked up like sandbags as Clint would say, had me thinking I'd go -we should do something. As it unraveled over the next few years we have what we see today. President Obama drew a "line" it was also said that China and Russia would condemn US involvement. It has been handled so ugly by the Obama administration, at least on it's face, we shouldn't give President Obama anything for the remainder of his term.
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The president cannot declare war, only congress can. If we were to declare war on ISIS/ISIL/Daesh, it means we would acknowledge them as a nation. If we were to declare anything, it would be to remain vigilante in our own soil, as well as combating further threats in their own. This would require to combined efforts of many nations working together.
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