Posted on Sep 18, 2014
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We had Lieutenants saluting each other, now I ask this: Should an E-3 stand at the position of parade rest for an E4 Specialist (not a corporal)?

FM 7-21.13 The Soldiers Guide in Chapter 4 addresses customs and courtesies. It states that Soldiers junior in rank will stand at parade rest when addressing an NCO unless otherwise directed.

I remember when I was a PFC, I had a Specialist who was adamant about all E3s and below standing at parade rest in front of him. Was he right?

What say you RP?
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SSG Robert Burns
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This is silly. Everyone knows you salute a SPC first then you stand at parade rest......while your Squad Leader punches both of you in the throat.
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CMSgt Senior Enlisted Leader
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Nah. I am pretty much Chuck Norris with longer hair. :D
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SSG Training Sergeant
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You have to find the Specialist first - usually they are hiding behind something while the new Privates finish off the detail.
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1SG First Sergeant
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CMSgt (Join to see) yes, yes you are...
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SSgt Ncoic, Admin And Dts
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My question is would Chuck Norris get a reprimand for showing up to formation with his beard? Would the CC snap to attention and salute said beard?
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If a PFC stood at parade rest in front of me, my first instinct would be to mouth, "Who.Is.Behind.Me?"
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SGT CH-47 Helicopter Repairer
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SGT (Join to see) So glad you threw that in, because that is exactly what i was thinking.
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SGT Team Leader
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SGT (Join to see) and SGT (Join to see), yep. When we update in this forum, RP definitely goes allll the way back.
On the downside, I look like an undisciplined wuss of an NCO.
On the upside, I'm cool as hell.

In reality, when a soldier stands at parade rest for me, I give them kudos for discipline, even when I tell them to "at ease." Actually, it's these soldiers who I have in the most confidence in :)
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SPC Jeffrey Bly
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I always knew my place as a Specialist and never abused it, but I always tried to look out for those below me in rank.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Cpl Christopher Bishop - That is correct, in the Army a E-4 Specialist is not in the chain of command. The Marine Rifle Platoon pushes the NCO's down one rank from what is normal in the Army, a Staff Sergeant as Platoon Sergeant instead of an E7 Army Platoon Sergeant, Sergeants instead of Staff Sergeants as Squad Leaders, and Corporals instead of Sergeants leading a Fire Team. There are Army Corporals, but you won't see that a lot. So that PVC aught to stand at parade rest addressing you since you are both a NCO and generally have a position that would reinforce that authority, like Team Leader.
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1SG Company First Sergeant
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You answered your own question!

"Soldiers junior in rank will stand at parade rest when addressing an NCO"

A SPC is not an NCO!
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SSG Intelligence Analyst
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SPC Jarell Moody, if you believe a corporal is not an NCO, you're wrong.
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SPC Sheila Lewis
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SPC Jarell Moody, that depends on the Command and how many males are in charge.
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SSG Brian Carpenter
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Look at the regulations
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SSG Brian Carpenter
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I stand corrected apparently I forgot look it up yourself first BWAHAHAHAHA my apologies. Been a long time since retirement
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