Posted on Nov 20, 2019
Should President Trump provide credibility back to UCMJ by charging to start with: Admiral Green, Adm Gilday, Secretary Spencer?
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How many in Vietnam vets that did worst Than Chief Gallagher, and never had to face UCMJ charges. It’s not like he burned down a village filled with women and children. Yet I wasn’t there. I will tell you this. I’ve seen our young men and women coming back from that shit hole desert. I attended some funerals, and I see the faces every day I’m awake. If you don’t think for one minute that I wouldn’t have done worst to those heathens that kill, maim, dismember, or hang our dead from a bridge than Chief Gallagher and the others Have been tried for, think again. I think the President is doing an OUTSTANDING job providing for and protecting our active, reserve, and retired military members. It’s a tough job. It’s refreshing to know that SOMEONE actually gives a fuck about our military, and it’s Vetrans. To all of you back seat drivers, if you think you can do better, step up to the plate. I despise those who try to “quarterback” while sitting in your recliner watching CNN. Get off your asses and find the truth. Your not going to get it from the MSM! No one here is perfect, and while you live in your glass house, you probably shouldn’t be throwing rocks. I love and respect our President, and I wish I could have had him sign my retirement papers rather than Obama.
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SP6 Guy Slater
Then Chief, you need to be removed from the Service. It is our job to fight, and sometimes kill the enemy. It is not our job, no matter how many times we may want to, to play judge, jury and damned sure not executioner because our unit has drawn fire from a vil "too many times." Calley was a scapegoat for the ones whose asses should have been fried, (along with him) but got an pass. Gallagher should be tried by the Navy, as the ones who have UCMJ jurisdiction, and their judgement should stand.
And because some of my Brothers in Vietnam committed illegal war crimes, and got away with them, is no excuse to be used to exonerate Chief Gallagher. He was caught, reported by his own team, and the Navy found him guilty, DESPITE the interference of the Commander in Chief, a person who needs to learn the limits of his authority. Forcefully if that is necessary.
And because some of my Brothers in Vietnam committed illegal war crimes, and got away with them, is no excuse to be used to exonerate Chief Gallagher. He was caught, reported by his own team, and the Navy found him guilty, DESPITE the interference of the Commander in Chief, a person who needs to learn the limits of his authority. Forcefully if that is necessary.
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We train them to go where others cannot. We cannot expect an elite force to be effetive without having thre back. Yes they should be charged. War is not fair
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At the end of the day, whether any of us like it or not, Mr. Trump is the Commander in Chief. And although I am a conservative Republican and a Trump supporter, I don't think this was a gooy decision. Second guessing Flag grade officers in a UCMJ action that was this high of a profile was terrible for morale all over the place.
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ok, for one, the POTUS is the C and C, but I don't think he should be involving himself in military discipline, he can, i just don't think he should. Having said that I will say this however. They could take away my "V" designation, and even take my tab. But no one can make me (NOT A RANGER) It's been earned, it's in my blood and it is in my soul, just like almost every S.E.A.L. I have ever trained with or known. Regardless of the outcome of this situation, (BTW, I am happy they are not taking his Trident) but even if they did, he is a S.E.A.L. till the day he dies. The pin, or tab, is nice, but it is in the heart that counts.
RLTW!!
RLTW!!
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Yes.
He is subordinate to our Commander n Chief.
He was not given an illegal order.
He doesn't have any more authority or privalege to disrespect a Superior than any of his subordinats do.
Leading by example, also means "facing the music" for your misdeeds.
He is subordinate to our Commander n Chief.
He was not given an illegal order.
He doesn't have any more authority or privalege to disrespect a Superior than any of his subordinats do.
Leading by example, also means "facing the music" for your misdeeds.
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Gallagher was acquitted of every serious criminal charge he faced. He was convicted of letting his picture be taken with a dead terrorist... hardly worthy of more than loss of some pay and a reprimand. Secretary Spencer personally initiated the Trident Review Board for THAT infraction. In his op ed Spencer said (about Trump) that it is highly unusual for commanders to get involved in personnel matters. Apparent, he did not recognize his own highly unusual involvement in Gallagher’s punishment for having his picture taken. Trump acted to STOP Spencer from taking his unusual action and Spencer STILL tried to go around the president and donor anyway. He is fortunate to only be fired. A low ranking officer would get fried!
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should be discharge as is and be given a medical discharge based on the serviceman inability to reason what is mentally sound(PTSD).
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