Posted on Jan 11, 2021
SPC July Macias
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During my 2nd Iraq tour, our E7 platoon Sergeant got into a lot of trouble for bringing his own shotgun and AR15. He was removed from our company and we don't know the details of his punishment beyond that. But it got me thinking... Wouldn't it be a good idea to let senior NCO's and officers bring their own personal firearms on deployments? I certainly think so. What are your thoughts?
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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Personally I am for it, but higher up generally have a cow about it, but on the other side of the coin, who doesn't think that they might be carrying their own, and think that it's ok SPC July Macias
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CW3 Harvey K.
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I recall my career Marine brother served in Korea with a S&W Combat Masterpiece revolver. I was rather young at the time, but I think it was a popular personal weapon among the troops. It might have been the advantage of a double-action sidearm in speed of firing, in contrast to a .45 with regulations stating the chamber had to be empty.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
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A 1911 is faster than a revolver for most people. And back then they carried it with a round in the chamber. But revolvers were considered more reliable than autos because if a revolver malfunctions all you have to do is squeeze the trigger and fire the next round but a malfunctioning auto has to be cleared before firing another round. For decades, Navy Seals and Marine Recon carried revolvers for that very reason.
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CW3 Harvey K.
CW3 Harvey K.
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Cpl Mark McMiller - I would ask "What changed" in weapons technology to cause that change, but I know there was no such "magic" to change the practice. Things today re revolvers and pistols are still as you describe them.
It seems to be a matter of the evaluation of pistols that can take dirt, dust, mud etc. and still function. while revolvers are more sensitive to the harsh conditions of the battlefield. Better to have a sidearm that can take that punishment and still shoot, than something that is more reliable under ideal conditions.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
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CW3 Harvey K. - I think it's also that people have a hard time hitting what they're shooting at with revolvers because the double-action long trigger pull makes it harder to keep the sights on target. Same with double-action autos on the first shot. That's why I love the 1911 with its single-action short, crisp trigger pull.
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CW3 Harvey K.
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Cpl Mark McMiller - Then again, you can (usually) cock the hammer of a revolver (or pistol) for more precise shooting. DA only for close combat.
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LtCol Robert Quinter
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Perhaps some of our friends more familiar with current regs could speak on problems therein, however, I know some of our squadron brought their personal firearms to VN. It seems it would be even more simple if you were deployed with your unit and could get the CO's permission.
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SSgt Thomas L.
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It would never go. The weapons we use need to be cleared to ensure they meet Geneva Convention requirements. I don't think there's any kind of waiver for that. Opening it up would cause chaos.
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LtCol Robert Quinter
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SSgt Thomas L. - Don't remember anyone checking our weapons in VN, just what you brought home
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SSgt Thomas L.
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LtCol Robert Quinter a lot has changed since Vietnam.
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