Posted on May 5, 2015
Should SHARP be the #1 priority for the Army right now?
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So we are all very aware of SHARP, hence the 300 hours or more of training a year. However, What do you personally feel should be the Army's number one priority at this present time?
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With where the Army's focus lies right now, you would think we failed on two fronts in the war on terror because we had too many tattoos and not enough SHARP, EO, and resiliency training.
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I think SHARP is important but we need to focus on being an effective fighting force.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
A large problem we have in today's army is lack of expectations. No matter how much training we have, no expectations and no results. Sexually harass people and you are gone, period. Much of the problem we have is deciding what is a truthful accusation and what is not. Don't have sex with a female if she has had one drink, she cannot consent. Are our female soldiers really victims to that degree they cannot make their own decisions? No amount of training will solve this problem until we have it fully defined and as a father of a young lady, my daughter does not need to be labeled a victim because of her gender and that is a major problem we have today.
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Great comment, MAJ Oyler! I also believe that we should harshly punish our senior leaders who violate this trust! Unfortunately, it appears to me that our senior leaders are mostly unethical and have fallen victim to being the Bad Boys Club although their are women GOs in that club, as well.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
COL (Join to see) - Sir, I do not think our senior leaders are in so much unethical but playing the games necessary to promote and attain higher positions. The higher you go the more the emphasis is pleasing those above you than taking care of those below and getting the job done.
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MAJ Oyler, isn't that kind of the same thing? When you turn a blind eye so you can promoted is the same as condoning the act. Senior leaders should be punished harsher as they should know best. Maybe I'm old fashioned but the GO corps of the past several years has been atrocious especially in the 3 and 4-star level. Where did all thsee unethical bastards come from (answer: West Point)?
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Win wars...and tell politicians to go screw themselves when they intentionally want to hurt soldiers and veterans....that has been happening since 2008
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Tachtical and technical proficiency. PT and soldier skills. With our slang, jargon, and euphemisms the military is offensive and aggressive in nature. We are shaped this way ftom the begining of our enlistment. Should females be assaulted sexualy, or harrased, HELL NO. Should someone's sexual orientation define them as a soldier, HELL NO. Should any and every soldier meet and exceed the standards placed before them, HELL YES. Should all soldiers be held accountable for their actions and decisions, HELL YES. Kinder gentler get out of our way, let us kick ass and take names. Those who cannot meet the standard, fall in line, and take offense over b/s go back to society where you can be a soft indaviduals and get out of my military. The enemy is learning how to kill and destroy us, not sitting in a briefing learning the words he can say.
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Personnel and equipment readiness
Actual training and maintenance of both personnel and equipment. Stop wasting valuable time on repeated "death by powerpoint" classes. They've all lost their effectiveness, because of over-training. There's a time and place for each subject... we just go way overboard, until nobody is listening anymore.
Actual training and maintenance of both personnel and equipment. Stop wasting valuable time on repeated "death by powerpoint" classes. They've all lost their effectiveness, because of over-training. There's a time and place for each subject... we just go way overboard, until nobody is listening anymore.
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We need to focus on retaining the right service members as this draw down comes to a close. That means getting rid of toxic and ineffective leaders as well as being honest and constructive in our evaluations. This shows boards periods of personal growth which may be a greater accomplishment than sustaining over time. We talk about growing leaders but where is the proof when the majority of leaders are receiving 1/1, 2/1, 1/2, 2/2. Threes do exist and still mean 'promote'.
Another part of retaining is pay and benefits. It will be fun to see the new Cyber Warriors (offensive and defensive) get trained up, receive a bonus and incentive pay, do their ADSO, and go forth to that six figure job outside of the service.
SHARP....we get statistics on how many assaults happen but you have to datamine the internet to see the results of punishment. More will report when they see the process working and we can get rid of the bad apples.
EO is the same as SHARP. We can get more results when people have more faith in the system (and each other).
Suicide - We've tried all the methods and nothing is changing. Is there an effective answer? If you have it you can patent it.
Another part of retaining is pay and benefits. It will be fun to see the new Cyber Warriors (offensive and defensive) get trained up, receive a bonus and incentive pay, do their ADSO, and go forth to that six figure job outside of the service.
SHARP....we get statistics on how many assaults happen but you have to datamine the internet to see the results of punishment. More will report when they see the process working and we can get rid of the bad apples.
EO is the same as SHARP. We can get more results when people have more faith in the system (and each other).
Suicide - We've tried all the methods and nothing is changing. Is there an effective answer? If you have it you can patent it.
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I am SHARP-VA, MRT, and EO. I get beat to DEATH on giving SHARP stuff and then MRT stuff and when they think of it then they want to know where we are on EO. Usually it is when we have an issue (I try to stay on it before hand, at least I did before I started getting ready to clear and handed it all over to others). I don't really see a change in the numbers. They are quick to say that the MRT program is a failure. Stupid stupid observation in my opinion, they are looking at it big picture and when you look at SHARP then you can call it a failure too, because big picture that is where the issues are. Small picture, local is where the numbers are different. (i.e. In my location, we don't have high suicide numbers, so MRT could be considered a success right? SHARP could be considered a success because SHARP cases are not huge) Anyway, all of this focus is on these programs because they are PUBLICITY. That is the bottom line. They give black eyes, if we are being honest, lets be honest. Our pay and benefits are something that people do not think about except for those that are affected by it.
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Flipping the coin, since SHARP only affects me by the multiple hours of training I have to endure, but my pay and benefits affects me and my family on a daily basis, that's why I put more emphasis on that personally.
Flipping the coin, since SHARP only affects me by the multiple hours of training I have to endure, but my pay and benefits affects me and my family on a daily basis, that's why I put more emphasis on that personally.
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Yes however the approach is fallible. Case in point: my NCOER is now having a senior eater bullet STOLEN for a simple check the block statement on whether I do or do not support and promote SHARP. Yes, there are turds in any organization of varying aptitude and verocity of their unprofessionalism. However the knee jerk reaction across the board referring to my/our ability to play nice with others and maintain an already demonstrated and well expected notion of basic human decency is foley.
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It shouldn't even be in the top 10. Things like weapons training, field operations, close combat instruction, Small unit tactics, anti-terrorism training, close order drill etc etc etc. If someone commits a crime punish them quickly and to the extent the offense warrants.
If you have people that do not know that assault and/or harrasment is wrong my guess is classroom training will have little effect. I think the lack of progress demostrates that adeptly.
If you have people that do not know that assault and/or harrasment is wrong my guess is classroom training will have little effect. I think the lack of progress demostrates that adeptly.
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Why do we need the linear thinking of one then another... Then below that is another.
The military is a multi- faceted and can handle multiple priorities at once.
We can be proficient in combat and not rape people at the same time.
The military is a multi- faceted and can handle multiple priorities at once.
We can be proficient in combat and not rape people at the same time.
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Cpl Jeff N.
MSG (Join to see) . I wasn't suggesting we could not do more than one thing at a time. Only that the primary mission of the military seems to get squeezed by things like SHARP training. It appears that the time spent on SHARP training is out of proportion to mission accomplishment. I can tell you we spent zero time on SHARP training when I was in.
If you look at the results of SHARP over the years it appears pretty ineffective too. We should train for battle, warn troops about inappropriate behavior and prosecute crimes when they occcur.
If you look at the results of SHARP over the years it appears pretty ineffective too. We should train for battle, warn troops about inappropriate behavior and prosecute crimes when they occcur.
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