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SPC Robert Patrick
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<p>I have been in the Army for 4 and a half years.&nbsp; In those 4 and a half years I have noticed that married soldiers seem(and&nbsp;I put the emphasis on seem) to be listened too more than the&nbsp;single soldiers.&nbsp; There are the unit FRG programs and garrison level ones as well.&nbsp; I have&nbsp;been an advocate participant in B.O.S.S.(Better Opportunities for Single Soldiers) in those 4 years.&nbsp; It has always seemed to me&nbsp;that a married soldier was more likely to get a marriage retreat approved than a single soldier.&nbsp; Even&nbsp;as former VP of the Fort Detrick BOSS Committee and Unit representative it seems&nbsp;like if an event is geared towards families then&nbsp;Units push it and encourage married soldiers to attend but if it&nbsp;is an event for single soldiers there does not&nbsp;seem to be much emphasis put on it.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have had Soldiers be told they couldn't do certain events that may happen during the duty day but there are marriage retreats people go on and they take up duty days as well.&nbsp; <br><br>It seems to me that though&nbsp;the Army took steps to correct starting with the implementation of BOSS&nbsp;in 1989 it still does receive as much support from unit CoCs as family events do.&nbsp; <br><br>Any thoughts?&nbsp; Do you agree or disagree?&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>****I know I messed up the title*****</p>
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SPC Stephen Bobchin
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I should clarify, I am not complaining about my barracks, in fact, I view it to be the best barracks I've seen, even if its the smallest.  We don't have a CQ, alcohol limits or anything like that, and we have fewer incidents than our sister barracks that does have those restrictions.
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Single soldiers will continue to have restrictions in barrack as long as you have incidents with assault and underage drinking going on there. There hasn't been too many sharp incidents in family housing areas maybe some adultery. Then I also think limits have to do with the condition the soldiers keep there barracks.
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CSM Charles Hayden
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SPC Stephen Bobchin, Someone or something else positive must permeate your barracks. Appreciate that and try to discover the secret for later use in your career. There is always a cause that must be appreciated and protected!
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The 1st answer I can give you is because SMs living in on-post housing are considered more responsible than the normal party hardy single Soldier that doesn't have anyone else within their household at times to answer to.


Secondly, government qtrs., which are now privatized are considered less required to in house military standards as are a barracks government living area, just as you don't have inspections of off-post housing.


And finally whether it be alcohol or other attributes, married Soldiers are living in what is considered their own house and not a government controlled living area and the regulations are designed for the government controlled living areas, before housing became privatized, many of those same directives and rules for barracks applied for housing areas, that all changed when the SMs had to start paying for the qtrs.

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MSG John Duchesneau
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Lets see... Most E-5s and above are married whereas most E-4s and below are not. As a result, leaders are more likely to be in tune with the needs of married soldiers and not so much with the needs of single soldiers.
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SPC Robert Patrick
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Then that needs to change and that was part of the reason for the creation of the the BOSS program in 1989. And the individual who over sees each Garrison BOSS program is the Garrison CSM. Events that a BOSS council come up with is approved first by said CSM. There is a reason why BOSS is not made up of Married SM's. Of course the mission must always come first and it does. My point a little over 4 years ago was that it never does seem to be taken care of to the same measure. With regards to your statement that most E-5's and above are married and more E-4's and below are not what does that have to do with what ALL NCO'S should do. There is a particular line in the Creed of the Non-Commissioned Officer, "I know my Soldiers and will always place their needs above my own." What you are saying is that NCO's are not in tune with ALL of their Soldiers needs and do not get to know them. What's your take keeping that in mind?
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It seems to me this thread has gotten very off track. It started off with a question/concern about single versus married soldiers being given opportunites for community/volunteer events and turned into a huge discussion on barracks and inspections and such.
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SPC Robert Patrick
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I honestly have no Idea how Barracks came into this because I made no mention of them in my post and had no intention of bringing the barracks into this.  The point I was trying to get across is that in my experience units show more favor to giving married soldiers time to do marriage retreats and such than they give single Soldiers to do the Single soldier retreats or BOSS Events.
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I would say that due to there be more married troops proportionate to single, that perhaps it just does "seem" that way. It also differs from unit to unit, as my unit spends an equal amount of time&nbsp;advertising Single Soldier retreats as Married Retreats. And, to my knowledge, we have never denied something the opportunity due to their martial status of attending.&nbsp;
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SPC Stephen Bobchin
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I just want to put this out here:
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20131209/NEWS/312090027/Video-shows-brown-shower-water-mold-Fort-Polk-barracks

Have barracks inspections really been that effective? (Apparently these issues are common post-wide on Polk)
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