Posted on Apr 6, 2014
Should Soldiers wear the Class B/Tropical uniform for daily duties?
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Aside from line units or motor pools (or any other physical-type duty), should the Army move to a more professional uniform for daily duties?
If we're truly trying to more to a more professional looking group, (hairstyles, tattoos, etc.) why not go to the Class B/Tropical uniform on a daily basis?
If we're truly trying to more to a more professional looking group, (hairstyles, tattoos, etc.) why not go to the Class B/Tropical uniform on a daily basis?
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I agree with 1SG Whitman. If in a HQ, Pentagon, or Garrison unit yes. Pride in service, history, and pride in self should be emphasized if this were adopted. Perhaps even returning to wearing ASUs for payday activities so every Soldier wears them once or twice a month, depending on mission and training schedule.
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The cost to maintain dress uniforms is outrageous. I was in USAREC when we wore B's and it wasn't bad due to the SDAP. We were also issued additional uniforms. The current budget would not allow such a change. I do like the idea but do not see it ever happening.
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Normal units working outside the "cubicle" environment, should stay BDUs. However, those who work in office settings, should wear Class Bs
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There needs to be an in between uniform if we are going to do that. The ACU/OCP is an acknowledged combat uniform. The current service uniform would not hold up to daily wear and tear and we would have to increase the authorized amount in the clothing bag issue to account for it. The Navy had the utility uniform (dungarees) that was for daily work in addition to the service uniform and now they got rid of them in favor of the battle uniform. If we wish to look professional we should not have switched to a wash and wear "formless" uniform.
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Because I don't have enough heartache having to correct countless NCO's and Officers once a month on payday activities? ;) Honestly though, I'm all for it, I just wish more people knew HOW to wear it before putting it on..
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I can definitely see it used as professional attire in that environment. SGL's in the academic environment, staff personnel, MP's on duty, etc.... I will however state that in many of the old images of MP's they were not wearing a bullet proof vest like they do today so they will not necessarily have that slim appearance.
The problem comes with people having to learn how to wear it correctly, it's just not done enough anymore. As a young soldier I wore it every month when reporting for pay, and monthly inspections and ceremonies. Today your lucky if they wear it once a year and then only after four or five pre-inspections to make sure it's straight.
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
Training soldiers on the proper wear and appearance of the service uniform is the leader's responsibility just as much as the individual's responsibility. This is not an excuse for not wearing it for daily duties.
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SSG Ruth I absolutely agree, however I can't count how many NCOs and Officers I have seen that do not know how to wear the uniform correctly themselves.
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No, But I could see it becoming the standard at non functional NCOES courses.
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MSG,
Money and practicality arguments aside. I believe the Army is moving in the wrong direction with the "Professionalism" bit. We exist to protect and defend the constitution of the United Stated against all enemies. In and of itself that requires us to commit unnatural acts ie. murder(for lack of a better description). To try and put all of us in a suit and tie seems to take away the focus on what exist to do. You can't, in my opinion, say that Soldiers in MTOE units dont have to wear them daily but those in TDA do, and then try to call everyone a Soldier. Making them wear different uniforms essentially segregates them and creates a divide. Lets face it, line guys consider everyone else POG's already. Any one of us should be able to, at a moments notice, be able to perform any legal order given to us. Making people dress up all fancy to "look good" takes away from their ability to perform.
Respectfully.
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SGT Seth Wardell
I think you may have missed the point, the idea is that service members should wear more 'professional' uniforms in more 'professional' settings, I.E. if you are in an office setting, wear an 'office' uniform, not a 'field' uniform.
I know when I was working in an office, I would have been able to "protect and defend the constitution" just as easily in a semi-dress uniform as in a utility uniform.
I know when I was working in an office, I would have been able to "protect and defend the constitution" just as easily in a semi-dress uniform as in a utility uniform.
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While the idea looks great on paper, I feel that much like the whole beret idea, it would fail in the particle world. Yes, service members receive a yearly clothing allowance but that needs to cover everything the service member needs for that year. ACUs, their field gear, and now these...how would you expect the service member to decide what is more important to use their clothing allowance on? Let's face it, the clothing allowance barely covers what you need now without adding this extra burden to it.
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SGT Seth Wardell
hmm, my memory might have been playing me up a bit.
I had a quick review of AR700-84, and it spells out a few different situations. Briefly, uniforms issued as part of a soliders basic clothing bag are that individuals responsibiltiy to replace using the clothing allowance. (the rules are different for USAR/USANG)
OCIE is different, and can be exchanged. If you have OCIE clothing/uniforms, probably including ACUs, the regulation seems to indicate that they are eligible for 'replacement-in-kind'.
Deployment makes everything different, you can do direct exchange of operational uniforms for all kinds of reasons, including 'normal' wear and tear, while part of the deployment. cycle.
I had a quick review of AR700-84, and it spells out a few different situations. Briefly, uniforms issued as part of a soliders basic clothing bag are that individuals responsibiltiy to replace using the clothing allowance. (the rules are different for USAR/USANG)
OCIE is different, and can be exchanged. If you have OCIE clothing/uniforms, probably including ACUs, the regulation seems to indicate that they are eligible for 'replacement-in-kind'.
Deployment makes everything different, you can do direct exchange of operational uniforms for all kinds of reasons, including 'normal' wear and tear, while part of the deployment. cycle.
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SGT Seth Wardell
The ASU does fall under either initial or supplimental clothing issue, and as such is supposed to me maintained through the Clothing Replacement Allowance. I have found that with proper care and maintinence, a set of ASU's will last just as well as any other uniform. My only caveat is the dry cleaning requirement/recommendation though - I really think quartermaster laundry would be a valued supply function to bring back...
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