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<p>As Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced last week, the Air Force plans to retire its A-10 Thunderbolt fleet, a plane built for close air support and long and widely appreciated by ground troops. But the Air Force considers the plane, dubbed the “Warthog,” as a single-mission aircraft at a time when it needs weapons able to conduct multiple missions.</p><p>Air Force leaders have said retiring the A-10 “achieves large savings while preserving multi-role [aircraft].” Of course, the Air Force tried this last year, and was promptly denied by Congress who included legislation in last year’s budget ordering the service not to spend a dollar toward retiring the fleet.</p>
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MSG Wade Huffman
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Saw this and had to share it here!!
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SFC Rich Carey
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Love the A-10, great for close air support - The Army should pick it up
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MSgt Scott Gaston
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Used to hate refueling A-10s, but with all the redundant systems and the mission of the Aircraft, it will remain necessary in Close-In and Battlefield Assault Missions in support of engaged ground troops. Therefore I think if the Air Force is sending it to the "Bone Yard", it would be better to send it over to both the Marines and the Army...Just may need some Air Force "Zipper Suited Sun Gods" to train them on the Air Frame...;-D)...!
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SSG John Bacon
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MSgt Scott Gaston - Nice you have a picture of the 334th FS refueling I was in the 336th at SJAFB in the earaly 90's
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MSgt Scott Gaston
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Yeah the F-15s were one of my favorite aircraft to refuel. You call them down into position and they were so stable as if they were parked! Nothing like F-4s that were so eratic, but I'm glad you enjoyed the picture just as much as I loved my job until grounded for my 4th Ear Drum replacement. Stay safe and don't forget to tell your buddies about Cigars For Warriors when they're Forward deployed. We are now up to 16,000 a month of donations shipping into theater. All they have to do is go to cigarsforwarriors.org and fill out a request form and they'll receive them free of charge (we're a 501 (c) 3 1005 non profit. 152 un-paid volunteers, our time our dime!
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CW4 Michael Fowler
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You damn right the Army should take it!! It's a flying tank for goodness sake. There was a female Air Force Pilot that flew her A10 back to base during Desert Shield/Storm with half the vertical fin shot off and holes all over the aircraft. That was proof enough for me that this aircraft is BADASS!!!
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SSG John Bacon
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I remember that But it was the Port vertical fin was completely gone and 1/4 of the port wing tip was shredded. She said that it didn't make the aircraft handle any different and she landed with out incident.
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I see a movie in the making. Some of you may be aware that the Australian MoD's offering jobs to former US servicemen. So I'm thinking a rogue wing of A-10 drivers led by an unhinged COL along with a zany KC crew should steal their birds and fly them off to down under where they'd get commissions in exchange for handing over the planes to the RAAF. Then, as we've fought alongside the Aussies more so than either the Brits or the Canucks, they can provide the Army and USMC with proper CAS. Think Cannonball Run meets Dr. Strangelove meets Firefox.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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LT Martin, had you been in Iraq during the early phases of OIF1, you would have seen the Road Warrior come true..... ;o)
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What about the navy? Sense they use more planes then the army or the marines.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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Don't think an A-10 can land or take off from a carrier....kinda precludes them from being a Navy tactical asset....
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MSgt Scott Gaston
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Glad to see someone else from Columbia, SC! Its a bad A$$ Aircraft (just ask any Iraqi who may have survived the highway of death as they tried to Un-A$$ Kuwait during DSI)...But then, I hated to see the old SR-71 moth balled as well...Just Saying!
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Should the A10 Thunderbolt II be an Army / Marine asset due to the Air Force's plans to drop the platform in 2015?
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SSG John Bacon.

What a deal . . . sustaining the entire fleet of Warthog A-10 Thunderbolts . . . for another decade and a half through 2028 . . . is said here to cost us less than one third of the cost of one of those New USAF $85MM F-35 JSF Currently NickNameless Flying Thingys . . .

What other flying machine has a rotary cannon that dwarfs the size of a Volkswagon . . . and fires rounds bigger than a bottle of beer . . . at even half the Warthog rate of fire ???

Bring on your ISIS, Al Queda, Boco Haram . . . but maybe not your Vladimir Putin . . . we've got a cheap reliable answer to your cheap unreliable pickup trucks . . .

Warmest Regards, Sandy

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SSG John Bacon. Regarding concern about A-10 aircraft carrier landing capability . . . the Marines have developed a simple way to deploy the A-10 Warthog from any ship or airfield . . . just carry the Warthog under one of those fine Marine CH-47 Chinook helos . . . until you find a decent 5000' improved or unimproved runway . . . or even 5000' of decent improved or unimproved road . . . from which to launch and retrieve your favorite Marine CAS asset . . .

Warmest Regards, Sandy

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Is that a 30 mm round in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? 3000 rounds per minute. A common combat load for an A-10 is to carry around 1200 rounds of ammo, which gives the pilot a bit less than 30 seconds of wham bam.
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CMDCM Gene Treants
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As awesome as the Warthog is, Navy would never buy into it because it is not Carrier suitable. As great as this plane is for Close In Troop Support the Marines and Army love it, but Navy would not be able to effectively deploy it. I am really surprised the AF has kept is this long since supporting other services has never been a big desire of theirs. If they could figure out a way to get our of the transport for Paratroopers business I bet they would.

Launching the A-10 from an Aircraft Carrier might work, but the splash could be problematic. Landing would involve even more problems - lots of broken cables and an airframe not stressed for the hook. (BUT I do love the rate of fire and the size of the bullet!)
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1LT Sandy Annala Marines do not have CH-47, they had CH-46's but I think to carry one of those bad boys (A-10) would have to call in the CH-53 it is a beast.
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Let the Army take them and you'll see my Warrant Packet for A-10 Pilot hit the post office in about 24 hours.

Also, the sound of their engines is probably the most motivating thing I've ever heard in my life, though they remind me of home due to their large numbers at Davis Monthan AFB.
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1SG Michael Blount
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Dropping the A10 platform is a perfect example of fixing what ain't broke. That plane is one of the most combat- and cost-effective in history, but doesn't have the sexy USAF likes. Typical reasoning by people who have never had an A10 get their butts out of a tight spot.
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SSG Aircraft Mechanic
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I'd be fighting you at the mailbox!
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Well although I cant submit a WO package and become a pilot since im in the Marines (you guys are lucky on that one) I do think it would be a great asset. I have to admit when we knew they were in the air in Sangin we felt a whole lot better about things. To know they have direct capability to our services would just hadd to it. So yes I do think it would be a great asset to add to both forces.
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GySgt (Join to see),

If you want to become an Army flight warrant, they don't care about MOS or branch. You will just need the Marine Corps to release you.

153A Rotary Wing Aviator Info: http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/warrant/prerequ/WO153A.shtml

Marines to Army Info: http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/warrant/WOgeninfo_enlmos_mar.shtml

I hope that helps!

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SFC Stephen Carden
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This is yet another example of congressional/senior military staff ridiculousness. "Let's get rid of a proven battlefield asset because we think our fast movers can fly slow enough to handle the mission of the 'Hog." There was a rumor going around when I was a young Soldier during the Gulf War that the USAF had decided to let the Army take the A-10 program over, but reconsidered after the A-10 was the rock star of the war. I wish it had been true because that is one aircraft that is a real benefit to ground troops. In the end, despite all of the Joint Operations rhetoric, the USAF is going to do what is best for the USAF. Since only a very small percentage of USAF Airmen are ground-pounders (CCTs, PJs, combat weathermen, etc.)the A-10 is not all that important to them. Fighter jets are sexier, bombers drop more ordnance, cargo planes haul the lickies and chewies, and space operations are the future (according to the Star Trek movies). If one of the roles of the USAF is to support the Army or the Marines on the ground, then I say the responsible thing to do is to make the USAF keep the Warthog. You know, we have had problems with the Army Air Corps ever since they went off on their own back in '47! Does anybody else think "combat weathermen" sounds silly?
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The A-10 has evolved through the years with various upgrades that made it one of the best 'close ground support' platforms. Put the A-10 and the various US Army Helicopters in joint combat operations and you have an awesome force of power capable of providing protection to all our land based 'assets' (both men and equipment) and bringing a whole lot of pain and destruction to those that have the unfortunate fate of being their targets. The only thing that would make this scenario even sweeter would be to throw the spectre gunships in this deal. Then you would have the ultimate close ground support airframe package that would be our ground troops and equipment's best option and guardian angel.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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SFC Stephen Carden "Live in fame and go down in flame". Fame seldom accrues from CAS OPs!
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SPC Christopher Morehouse
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Absolutely. There is nothing wrong with that air frame. It has lots of life left in it, and plenty of opportunities to keep it current in the near and distant future. The A-10 could conceivable have just as long and successful service life as the B-52 has had.

The Airframe is solid. The engines have already gone through numerous upgrades (there civilian counterparts anyway, and working for the company that makes them I can tell you all those upgrades could be drop ins to the current air frame), and the weapons package it brings to the battlefield is not something that can be easily replaced.

The A-10 is not stealth. It is not "networkcentric" and it is not a techno fad 'insert buzzz word'. What it is, is a solid, survivable airframe that can carry a whole heck of a lot of ordnance and put it right where it needs to be. It should have gone to the Army and the Marines a long time ago.
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SSG John Bacon
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Now if the Marines could get this version for the vertical takeoff and landings not to mention hover mode. :) I jest of course but it would be cool.
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SSgt Gregory Guina
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I know for a fact that there are marine A-10 pilots. I would love to see the marine Corps keep this platform and fly it as it is an amazing CAS aircraft. One of the benefits of the A10 is that it can fly at low speeds. Additinally that gun is just an amazing piece of machinery and needs to be in the air supporting the ground pounders.
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I was never aware that A-10 were ever a Marine Corps asset nor having pilots trained in this fixed wing aircraft, can you show proof? I always thought this was an Air Force only war machine?
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SSgt Gregory Guina
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I am going to have to do some research but I know there were a few during OIF. It might have been on an interservice transfer of something along those lines but there was an article about a Marine A10 pilot supporting the Marines.
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SSgt Gregory Guina
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SSgt Fair I have not been able to find what I was referring to and cannot find anything about Marines piloting the aircraft. Everything I have found states that it is an Air Force platform.
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SSgt Tim Ricci
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OV-10 Pilots Trained at Davis Monthan (Spelling) where many A-10s was and currently ar stationed back in the 70- early 90s. I am not familiar with a Marine Pilot being an A-10 pilot as I know that A-10s are not in the Marine Corps inventory. As a Retired Marine Aviation Ordy 6531 we would have loved to have had that Airframe as the Aircraft itself was designed around the weapons systems.
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The Wart Hog saved my life in Afghanistan. I heard we sold some to the Canadians.
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SGT James Elphick
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1SG Michael Blount
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To guys on the ground, the A-10 is the best thing since sliced bread. My suggestion would be to move the A-10 to the USMC Air Wing, then have USMC and Army conduct one joint exercise after another until perfected.
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