Posted on May 6, 2015
Should the Air Force make a permanent transition from the ABU pattern to the OCP/Multicam pattern?
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Perhaps its time for ALL the branches to make a permanent transition to ONE standard multicam uniform and stop the madness altogether. As a taxpayer, I would certainly appreciate seeing DOD stop wasting money on developing "new and improved" cammies every damn time someone gets a wild hair up their butt.
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The SF guys here wear multicams when they trip out to the field. When they are doing on base duties, they wear the ABU. Honestly, I think we need to have one set utility uniform for the entire military, and let our service uniforms be the distinguishing factor
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All branches should have the same patterns, etc. more and more we are all deployed in the same location.
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My opinion is that all of the services should go to a single, one color uniform for all land operations. I'd go with OD green (I like the Israeli shade better than the old OGs, but that's just me.)
Personnel whose jobs entail the conduct of dismounted ground combat operations - infantry, cav scouts, combat engineers, EOD, forward observers/FACs/TACPs/ANGLICOs, medics assigned/attached to such units, etc - would be issued theater specific (desert, woodland, etc) camouflage uniforms when they deploy.
If your job doesn't entail dismounted combat ops, how much do you really need a camo-patterned uniform anyway? If the bad guys don't notice the tank/cargo truck/wrecker you're riding around in, the fact that your uniform is OD green or coyote with no pattern isn't going to make a difference. It sure as heck won't make any difference out on the tarmac, or FOB, or whatever.
I'd leave shipboard uniforms up to whatever the Navy and Coast Guard can agree on. Special ops is special ops, they can do whatever works for them.
Personnel whose jobs entail the conduct of dismounted ground combat operations - infantry, cav scouts, combat engineers, EOD, forward observers/FACs/TACPs/ANGLICOs, medics assigned/attached to such units, etc - would be issued theater specific (desert, woodland, etc) camouflage uniforms when they deploy.
If your job doesn't entail dismounted combat ops, how much do you really need a camo-patterned uniform anyway? If the bad guys don't notice the tank/cargo truck/wrecker you're riding around in, the fact that your uniform is OD green or coyote with no pattern isn't going to make a difference. It sure as heck won't make any difference out on the tarmac, or FOB, or whatever.
I'd leave shipboard uniforms up to whatever the Navy and Coast Guard can agree on. Special ops is special ops, they can do whatever works for them.
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But again, all that does is serve to cost the tax payers more money. I too agree, the OD Green was definitely a good utility uniform, cause the muddier and dirtier it got, the better improved camo it provided. But should we really be throwing so many different uniforms into the mix? That is A LOT of money, and resources being used.
Current Multi-cam patterns can be used in almost any enviroment, and they're only getting better. Why do we need our uniforms to be different in garrison compared to a deployed location?
Just my two or three cents sir.
Current Multi-cam patterns can be used in almost any enviroment, and they're only getting better. Why do we need our uniforms to be different in garrison compared to a deployed location?
Just my two or three cents sir.
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There is no tactical reason for ABUs. We stand out in all of the possible terrain there is in the world.
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Is it me or is the AF just like the Army's little brother. They just want to look like us.
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We're all military correct? In garrison and off garrison; and the current uniforms (Both ACU and ABU) just don't cut it for us tactically.
But yes, the AF is like the Army's little brother, maybe sister as sometimes joked, but I mean...we did used to be the Army Air Corps, and we can't let big brother be happy and have all the fun toys while we get hand me downs. (My M-4, NVGs and Body Armor are all prior ARMY issue.) Haha
But yes, the AF is like the Army's little brother, maybe sister as sometimes joked, but I mean...we did used to be the Army Air Corps, and we can't let big brother be happy and have all the fun toys while we get hand me downs. (My M-4, NVGs and Body Armor are all prior ARMY issue.) Haha
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TSgt (Join to see) - It is like Adam and Eve. And POTUS saw the Army was lonely and he took a plane, like Adam's Rib, and made the Air Force. They then fell in love and created many wars together.
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CPT (Join to see) - Best analogy I have heard in my career. That's going on the wall!
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As it appears the other services are starting the transition I think we should too. I believe it could lower cost on the utility uniforms for our people if we all have the same uniform. The way we stand out should be with our service dress. We don't need people standing out from others on the battlefield or in joint exercises. One team, one fight, one uniform. Also what other than blending a group together we aren't really camouflaged with much else.
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TSgt Christopher D.
Indeed. Because by god there is NOTHING more important then consistently changing uniforms.
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I agree, another uniform change is a horrific thought, especially with how long transitions take and the double standards. But isn't it true that right now, these uniforms just are not cutting it?
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