Posted on Jan 28, 2014
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When I joined the Army we Specialist 4-6 (SP7 had just been discontinued). It provided those Soldiers who had technical expertise and experience the opportunity to progress and earn more pay. However they typically were not "green tab" leaders and were subordinate in rank to a "sergeant" of the same pay grade (SSG & SP6). I've often thought over the years that the Army deleted a program that brought added value to the organization by discontinuing these ranks, as not all Soldiers are not going to be good leaders but should have the opportunity to progress based on their occupational expertise.

Should the Army bring these ranks back?
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SSG John Jensen
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I loved being a Spec/5 (medic), and when I retired (truck driver) I was in the spot that would have been Spec/6, I didn't have the politics for that unit (I'm not a backstabber)
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CPL Kevin Howe
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Yes; been a spec, did good work, would not have done so well leading a fire team
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It is a routinely visited point of discussion. I think a more nuanced personnel management system is desirable than the status quo. As an aviation officer, it is tempting to join the camp wanting to return to old ways as well. But, for every lower ranking slot that is occupied by an experienced specialist (SP4-6), you deny your team an opportunity to bring in a junior enlisted member who would someday be an excellent senior NCO. The very argument to bring back these ranks recognizes how difficult it is to find good leaders. In doing so, you would deny the Army the limited opportunity it has crafted to find the leaders it needs to take charge of the mission while caring for the soldiers. No, the Army should not bring back these ranks. That does not mean that there aren’t alternative solutions. Promotion opt-in/out vs performance retention boards are viable options in my opinion.
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SSG Harry Herres
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YES, for the reasons you stated, and it you can't make the leadership requirement you will no loose great assets.
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Contracting could use Warrant officers too
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Cpl Christopher Bishop
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Seems to me that to add value, NCO Leadership Training should be increased, instead of sidestepping the problem that some people just can’t lead a horse to water.
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SGT Brad Baier
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Some soldiers are not leaders but still have skills and value. I think it would show these individuals they are wanted and needed if they got the title of specialists and a pay increase. Not all enlisted are going to make good or great NCO's, but there is still a place for their skills even if they never become a leader.
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The Army should definitely not bring back these ranks. We would have a bunch over over paid specialists and the Army wouldn't be able to be at full strength because we wouldn't be able to afford training. If you dont want to be a leader then it's time to move on.
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SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
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Yes, we should! Some career fields have changed their titles or names to be denoted as Specialist's in their fields! Why should they wear Hard Stripes when they are being called or titled as Specialist!
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SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
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The Pay is still the same!
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SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
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Yes, I enjoyed being called a Bird Sergeant, as a SP5.
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