Posted on Feb 6, 2014
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I have seen this multiple times so far.  A re-up NCO will come down and tell soldiers they have to sign a document that will show they aknowlede that they aren't able to re-enlist in their current MOS.  These particular soldiers who I've seen aren't being barred for UCMJ, flags, or any other negative admistrative reason.  Just that the Army has over filled their MOS and rather than keep the expierienced personel in their current field they would rather flood it with new privates who turn into NCOs that were promoted too quickly to fill numbers and slots.  It just doesn't make sense to me, so maybe someone who knows more about it can shed some light on it.  Ironcally enough, I was recently DA Selected to recruit, so I will soon be sitting on the other side of the fence so to speak. 
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Edited 11 y ago

It's not as simple as "the Army needs XXX amount of people".

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 The Army needs a certain amount of people at each skill level per MOS. It needs X amount of Privates, X amount of SGT's, X amount of Generals, and so on, and those numbers are even further subdivided by MOS's, Special Duty assignments, specialty tracks, etc...

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You can't just stop assessing people into the military for the sake of the people already in. It's not that simple. There are countless moving pieces, every single one of which influences and interacts with all the others.

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Rest assured these things are not being done arbitrarily. Managing personnel on this scale is a MASSIVELY involved undertaking with more factors than you and I can discuss in ten years, much less a quick RP discussion.

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With stuff like this, a good rule of thumb is, if at any time you catch yourself thinking   "this is simple, all you have to do is xxx" it means you don't understand it. These things are amazingly complex. No one person is in charge of it for a reason.

 

 

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SSG C Ied & Irw Instructor
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Beautifully said SSG Hasbun.  I could only imagine the bald spots on some of the people at HRC who are looking at personnel projections as they try to take down numbers by a 150,000.
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Acknowledge. That's the correct spelling. The SSG nailed it but it doesn't matter. Soldiers see something happen or hear about something happening and make assumptions/jump to conclusions without ever knowing why or how decisions are made.
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SGT Ben Keen
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I have to agree, it doesn't make sense to just throw a Soldier to the curb and spend all the money required to recruit, train, and outfit a new Soldier.  What policy is being quoted on the form?  It be interesting to read what that say.  Maybe in that document you can find better understanding.
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I have to agree SGT Keen.  It makes no sense to me when we can just hold off on spending all the money on new troops
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