Posted on Nov 17, 2013
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I just like the fact that Airforce, Navy and Marines only have the name rank and their respective branch. They all look the same and they all don't seem to have the judgements we have in the army. I mean we in the army have the unit patches, skill badges and deployment patch. I believe that the army should be the same as the other services.
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MSG G3/7 Trex Sgm
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I don't see any problem with us wearing (some) of our achievements on our duty uniforms. For many, it is a point of pride to walk around demonstrating who they served down range with, or what pain in the butt schools they've survived. I don't see any reason to stop, and personally hate the justifying argument of "Everyone else does it" (for any point)
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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No kidding!
Do you want to be the one to tell them to take the Ranger tabs off?
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MAJ Psychological Operations
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I think the patches and badges can motivate, though.
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I don't see a problem with the way things are now. If somebody earns the right to wear something, let them. If they choose not to, they shouldn't have too (except in ASUs). Being allowed to wear a badge that you earned is a matter of pride.. Soldiers should be proud of their accomplishments and allowed to display them. They worked hard for them and earned them. People that don't have them, see them and see something to strive for, a goal to set, a way to better themselves or stand out above the crowd. At least that's the way it was when I was a young Soldier. Maybe the lack of ambition I see in a lot of the Soldiers today has changed that, but does that mean the Army should buy into the trophy for everyone mentality? I personally don't think so but that is a completely different subject for discussion.

As far as the other services, they do wear badges as many have mentioned above. Navy has surface warfare and submariners badge. Pilots wear wings and SEALs can wear their tridents. I have seen marines with jump wings. Air Force has badges for their career fields, can wear jump wings, astronaut and missile badges, MPs wear a patch version of their badge, and recently the Air Force authorized wear of the Ranger tab on the ABUs for airmen that earn it or former Army personnel that changed branches and have the badge.
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On a side note, the only things I wear on my ACU's are name tapes, rank, unit patch, deployment patch, and of course the American flag. I don't wear any of the other stuff that I'm authorized but that is a personal choice, not because I think that we shouldn't.
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LTC James L Guerrieri Sr
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Let's consider the fact that we are a big Army. We are a big Military. 1% (or less) of our entire US Armed Forces come from elegible Americans or green card immigrants. (who I think have five years after joining to get their citizenship or they're out) Now only 1% of those troops actually see combat! Who's to say is more important the grunts on the ground, special forces, seals, delta force, rangers, EOD guys...you get the picture.... or all the service members supporting the combat forces on the ground on the sea in the air? Believe me it is an uncomfortable feeling to feel inferior to guys with all the tabs when most soldiers, sailors,etc don't get a deployment. The Army is the biggest supporter of making it's brother in arms feel inferior! The Airforce Marines..treat all their personnel with EQUAL treatment. Jesus..look at old pictures of Patton, Eisenhower, Bradley etc...one maybe two rows of ribbons and nothing to make them look like a third world dictator. Look at our Generals now in the Army!! From their belly button to the top of their shoulder is full of medals/ribbons tabs EVERYTHING they can stick on it!!! WTH?? ONE ARMY ONE UNIFORM! We all do are job and if we were discharged before a deployment or served during the cold war, even if it was for twenty to 30 years...You are still judged in the Army by the crap you wear all over your uniform!! Meanwhile all who did outstanding jobs for years but were never deployed suffer the rath of stare downs while they size up what you are wearing! Most other services DO NOT DO THIS. Now for those Medal of Honor awardees and CIB and CAB and proud soldiers wear them with pride on your blues but take it easy on the ones who didn't get the chance to get deployed or go to school because of their unit. NOTHING on the BDU's ACU's Multi cams etc! All For ONE And ONE For ALL! Sorry for the rant but what I see happening is not in keeping with the Army Standards. Those who supply the Beans and Bullets deserve respect also. Let's tone down all this "stuff"stacked to the ceiling on our uniforms and get them off our field uniforms! White Six OUT!
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LTC James L Guerrieri Sr
LTC James L Guerrieri Sr
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Sorry folks for the many typos..hit a nerve with me and I typed fast...But I think you get the picture. And I mean no disrespect for those out there with many many months of combat duty and multiple deployments. But your Marine counterparts right there with you couldn't care less what they wear. To them all their Marines are BROTHERS!
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LTC James L Guerrieri Sr
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OK in a nut shell....the 99% of our Military are in support of our 1% who actually see combat. They may have the badges and school training if their unit allowed the schools. But never
having seen combat (99%) why do they have to feel inferior to combat soldiers? Surely there must be a study or scientific moral survey out there to bring the 99% in on feeling PROUD JUST TO HAVED SERVED HONORABLY??? What about "COLD WAR VETS?? they served during PEACE TIME and between wars after VIETNAM 20-to 25 years! Entire CAREERS...God Forbid you wear a Cold War Badge in the US Army..you get laughed off post! NOT GOOD! Something Has to be done.
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LTC James L Guerrieri Sr
LTC James L Guerrieri Sr
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NOT SOUR GRAPES or JEALOUSY...just lack of understanding? perhaps someone could explain the Army's rational? I also believe our Generals today are watered down versions of Generals who lead the USA in our prior years. Mostly suck ups except for Petreous, McCrystal,Scwartzkaulf (sp?) Allen. Hey just one man's opinion and we are all allowed one.
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SGT Keith Boettcher
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I agree I have seen E3's & 4's who have more eye candy on their shoulder and above the L/ breast pocket than some veteran who have been in for 30 yrs. No I'm not knocking the young troopers. I understand it's a pride thing. I have my share of patches and badges as an NCO. But your right we should all be the same. Be uniform. Like they say we are all wearing the same let us all look the same.
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SSG Ralph Watkins
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Yes. It's just getting crazy with all the bells & whistle badges that are on the uniform now for the ACUs & other combat uniforms. Defeats the purpose of the combat uniform. A unit patch & a combat patch as well as the US flag should be it. Rank of course. Let the bells & whistles only be part of the dress uniform. That's what it's there for.
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SFC Zohn Tennyson
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Sure, why not? Let's just Obamaize everything and follow the current trend of no winners or losers. Everyone is equal. Fuck that. The other services have limited schools; a lot of them actually get qualified through the Army. UDT wears a patch in the navy, as do Air Force pilots. Those patches signify a "go" accomplishment. If you don't have any then quit being a pissy and go get some. Idiot
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SSG Marvin Vick
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no keep it the way it is...that's what make us more distinquished. if that was the case we could all just wear a regular three piece suit and necktie and call it a day. 
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SGT Shaul Funt
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I love it the way it is right now. I don't think any change is in order.
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SSG Retired!!!
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I don't see the point to this. This helps you know who your talking too and too a degree, that they know what they are talking about.
Of course, there are lots of exemptions to the norm.
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That's almost like the Corps, we do have devices that we wear like jump wings, scuba bubble, crew chief, air traffic controller, EOD tech, pilot wings, etc.  One thing that we don't wear is what course you have attended or receive medals and ribbons for completing some PME. 
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MAJ Senior Signal Oc
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SFC Pate,

Is this really about uniformity? Soldiers should have the right to show what schools, specialties they have accomplished. There is a reason this has gone through every uniform since they were created. Nothing wrong with it at all.

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CW2 Stephen Pate
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Sir, I didn't mean that there was anything wrong with it, just is it needed?
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I  have to be honest.  With all the issues the military is facing today, I find it humorous that one of the most widely discussed topics is the wear or non wearing of a patch.  I also don't understand the want to be like other service branches.  I joined the Army.  If I wanted to be like the other branches I would have joined that specific branch.  We are all very similar in a lot of ways but the uniqueness of each branch is what makes them stand out. 
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I like the Army way, brings pride in unit, shows where you been what you've done to a point. 
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LTC Paul Labrador
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USN SeaBees wear a distinctive patch on their BDUs.  So do their riverine and EOD troops.  USAF folks often will wear unit and squadron patches on their BDUs as well (they wear them on their chest pockets not on their shoulders).


And I'm in the ARMY.  I like the traditions we adhere to.

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SSG Mack Rixe
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I agree. I like the unit patches because you can quickly identify if the person is in a specific unit (convenient when you're looking for someone from a specific unit). All of the badges, however, should be saved for when you're in your dress uniform. That's the time for showing off and looking sharp.
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I will say the MultiCam Combat pants are the most brilliant thing the Army has ever come up with. No more having to hook my kneepads, AMAZING!

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I like Multicam, it is far more functional than ACUs where you can only blend in if you're lying on a couch. MARPAT would be nice but I can't imagine all the branches wearing something designated as "marine pattern."

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I would love to bring back BDUs or to just switch to Multicams. And personally, I believe the Marines have the SHARPEST dress uniform! I understand the reasoning behind our new ASUs but, Blue, Black, Yellow and White is a hot mess. I also feel like we should have kept the patches on the ASUs. While we're at it, let's lose the Combat and service stripes. Just my opinion/thoughts.

 

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SFC Senior Supply Sergeant, Bn S4 Ncoic
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I'll also throw it out there that the Marines have the sharpest duty uniforms as well. However I'm a big fan of the Multi-Cam personally. I do think there's too much "bling" allowed on our duty uniforms. I'd like to see it saved for ASU wear.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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ASU's colors an trim go back to the Civil war.  I like the way it's put together.  And the Army and Marine dress blue jackets were essentially identical until the 1930's when the Army dropped the choker collar.  Honestly I'd love to see us go back to the WW2 style khaki uniforms.  those were sharp.
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SFC Medical Platoon Sergeant
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LTC Labrador,

I second the motion for the khakis.  I don't feel the ACUs are appropriate in most garrison settings.  Even the BDUs were first a field uniform.  While we can wear the class B ASU at work, the white shirt is impractical in a patient care setting.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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Most folks wear scrubs anyway at the bedside.  THAT is a much more appropriate patient care uniform.


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