Posted on Aug 12, 2014
Should the cadence calling be left to the enlisted and NCO's?
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Since I've been in, it has been an unspoken rule that no officers (warrants included) dont call cadence. There have been times where I had to run a LT off the 'mic'. Leave it to the young hooahs and NCOs to keep the company/troop/battery/det/ fired up. What say you?
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The only time I've called cadence is when the NCO's weren't getting it done. I believe that's NCO business and it's a good way to build confidence and a warrior voice that can be heard above the din of battle. As with everything though, if the NCO's don't get it done, it becomes officer business.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
Besides some of them are not appropriate for an officer and gentleman to utter! lol
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COL (Join to see)
Yeah, the Squadron actually got in trouble the last time because we sang the "If you ain't CAV..." Cadence. No longer allowed to be in front of the formation.
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1SG(P) (Join to see)
Whether you are an NCO or an Officer, if you feed the Eprit of Corps enough get out there and motivate you unit to overcome their task (running) you should be able to step out and do your thing. It is typically an NCO function but if we don't force our young NCO to practice and get out there on small runs, what makes you thing that they will do it in bigger runs? In other words, they have to start somewhere. I have heard excuses from "I don't have any rhythm" to "I just don't know any cadences". Well, I am here to tell you that you can overcome both of them if you really want. Some people memorize how the song goes (without any rhythm) and they just stick to that. Then, if you don't know any cadences you need to make it important enough to learn some. After all what a better way to motivate your unit to act as one. Take charge and let it flow!
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
Here are easy ones that are not offensive:
Sound-off; 1 - 2; Sound-off; 3 - 4; Cadence count; 1 - 2 - 3 - 4; 1 - 2 — 3 - 4.
or
You had a good home but you left / You're right
You had a good home but you left / You're right
Jody was there when you left / You're right
Your baby was there when you left / You're right
Sound off! / 1,2
Sound off! / 3,4
Cadence count! / 1,2,3,4,1,2...3,4!
Sound-off; 1 - 2; Sound-off; 3 - 4; Cadence count; 1 - 2 - 3 - 4; 1 - 2 — 3 - 4.
or
You had a good home but you left / You're right
You had a good home but you left / You're right
Jody was there when you left / You're right
Your baby was there when you left / You're right
Sound off! / 1,2
Sound off! / 3,4
Cadence count! / 1,2,3,4,1,2...3,4!
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This is a silly question. Everyone knows that officers aren't fast enough to keep up with the NCO's anyway. So who cares if they call cadence....no one will hear it. (Thats right I said it! Now bring it!)
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PO1 (Join to see)
I hope your PL or higher isn't reading it. Or they might have 'the talk' with you in the morning. Then you might want to run ;-)
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
It should be for anyone, willing to show espirt de' corps within the unit, especially NCOs
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OH HELL NO! O's need to stay out of the cadence business! I'm with SSG Brad Porter on this one...if your NCO's are permitting O's to call cadence ALL of the NCO's in that run - from the Top E-9 to bottom rung NCO should be lined up and B!yachi $lapped - once on each cheek!
O's - stay with the crayons! Stay outa NCO business!
Nuff said....off soapbox
Continue the big suck
O's - stay with the crayons! Stay outa NCO business!
Nuff said....off soapbox
Continue the big suck
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SGT (Join to see)
NOt sure what happened to it, Not sure if it still exists, not sure if it ever did really get off the ground, But Does any one else remember SGT's Time Training? Would that not be a perfect setting to sit your young soldiers and lower non comms down and impart on them, respectfully and calmly, all the knowledge of the fateful C-130 on a one way trip? Is it not the best use of time to sit down with them and discuss the "Days of old when men were bold?" Hell i am pretty sure that even old Jody would agree.
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SFC Steven Harris
You don't take over because the NCO's aren't getting it done, you call the SGM into your office and tell him to fix this and fix this now and why is he even letting you get involved in this. Situations like this are known as indicators and they are not good ones.
And I put my crayons in the microwave.
And I put my crayons in the microwave.
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MSG Reid Stone
I agree with you! Yet after 40 yrs active and reserve time I retired this yr and discovered in the last 6-8 yrs most SGM/CSM's have their own agenda and a lot of them are not engaged with the troops, so they don't notice! Too busy taking care of themselves or like the SMA worrying about the boots I am wearing. Not the SGM's I grew up around in Germany in the late '70's.
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