Should the Height and Weight standards matter if they pass the physical fitness test??

Although This Is 2025 And The Post Originated In 2016,
Well OVER A Week Ago.~

I'd Think It Would Depend Upon Body Weight Vs Fat Mass.
Muscles Mass = Indicate Health
Additional Tonnage =Indicates Lardash
Arnold Schwarzenegger's Over Weight For His Height.
Common Sense Should Prevail ~ But Often Misses The Mark By A Mile Or Two

Personally, I'm more worried about competence than I am run times or waist lines.
After 22 years and seven deployments, I've never seen a mission fail due to PT scores or waist lines, but I've seen quite a few fail due to incompetence.

PT is easy to quantify, so it's easy to focus on, but the things that actually matter, such as competence, intelligence, experience, compassion, creativity, earnestness, devotion and countless other intangibles are much harder to quantify...
PT is the go to for lazy leaders... actual mentorship requires far more effort..

It’s time to let H/W go! With the difficulty the military as a whole has had getting people to not only join, but then the struggles we have retaining them have our numbers in this all volunteer force beginning to dwindle enough. Add to that the number of good, smart Soldiers I have seen get the boot due to H/W regardless of their ability to score 270 or higher on the APFT. We have an entry and retention problem that need to be addressed and even with these struggles to “keep em’ in boots” we still continue to kick out quality Soldiers due to H/W. I have taken the new ACFT and will feel that if a Soldier can pass this new full body workout ACFT then they should be able to stay in boots. Pt harder and smarter to keep your Soldiers in shape and you don’t have to worry about H/W. (Stepping off soap box)

Why isn’t weight a good physical standard? what is the answer

Should an APFT matter if Soldiers pass the height/weight?

The Physical Fitness Test ONLY evaluates general fitness...Soldiers can (and do in many cases) train a few weeks to minimally pass the current fitness test.

The Army Body Composition Program needs to be updated, but handcuffing one to the other will not happen.

It's a matter of appearance with the H&W. While I agree that if you pass the PT test you're in some kind of shape it doesn't necessarily mean you're in good shape and/or present a professional appearance. It doesn't take much or a lot of preparation to pass it every 6 months. Maybe if you had to take it every month and there weren't any PT event exemptions or alternate events across the board. But that's not the case so it should stay independent of each other.

I think the best way to look at this question is simple. For those of us that have had to depend on soldiers in combat would you rather have: service member 1 who scores in the top 10% of your services physical fitness test but is over the allowed body fat by 2% or service member 2 who scores in the bottom 10% of the fitness test but is 2% under allowed body fat. Given that they are both equally capable of doing their assigned job.

Most definitely.

My wife is in and she can pass a PT test without question. But, because she gains muscle along with burning fat her weight stays exactly the same. That's 1% over the standard. But if a guy has 45 inch waist (Pot belly) but a 21 inch neck well then by golly he passes. The standards need to be revised. Do the PT test like this 1 standard across the 2 genders. no less or more for either one and, on top of that, a ruck march 4 miles 30 minutes 40 lbs ruck. If you can do that then why the hell would anyone give a shit how much you weigh?

they should still have to look good in uniform.