Should the military create a warrior class?

You are not really serious? Are you?

I bet your part that yoing group that got a "Participation Trophy". Witjout winning a thing. Respect is earned, your on a team and need all parts to be effective.

Typical cocky grunt. Nobody takes away from what infantry, grunts or operators do. Hell if anybody deserves more respect its operators. Those small group of elite who sure as hell have done more than general infantry. One team one fight. It takes every mos/job to make everything work.

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Just an ordinary civilian here....never served ( although I did get offered to join post college as an OCS candidate, which I stupidly turned down ....oh well, roads not taken.....anyway.....) - seems like the vast majority of responses favor no special treatment of a "warrior class", pointing out that everyone on the team contributes, and sacrifices in their own way. I think that most folks recognize the unofficial pecking order anyway, and know who's a member of the warrior class or not. As others have pointed out, certain roles are inherently more dangerous than others, but one can never be certain as to what one can be called upon to do in any role. As many have pointed out, it takes the entire team to make it all happen, or else the "warriors" can't function. My father served as an officer in the Merchant Marine in WW2 in the engine room - in spite of this, he still was wounded in a "skirmish" with a U-Boat, and suffered for the remainder of his life with those wounds - one would never consider his specialty as being one of those in the warrior class, but he sacrificed his body just as much as a Marine would have on Iwo Jima.

I see a lot of negative votes for you and I disagree with that. Everyone has a right to an opinion. But to your point, in a war like we currently fight mos is immaterial. Soldiers of every job have face the challenges of this war and have seen combat. I've done just as many tours as many in combat mos' and been engaged as well.
That said combat arms is choice. And your Blue is your recognition. Other than that somebody might get you a cookie but that's about it... Ask yourself could you do the job of an aviation mechanic. Or a parachute rigger, or a cook, ammunition specialist, or any other of the 150+ careers. Bottom line without your CS and CSS you would lose. Period. Read any book about war and the one tactic that has always made a country win is attack the supply line. You can't win without beans and bullets, intelligence and communication, 11B so maybe now you can see us in equal regard.

You get recognition, blue cord, blue disc backers, and a blue backed badge. Beyond that, you're the same as every other person in the military, you wake up, do your job, go to sleep and repeat. 11B, then 89D, so I've been on both sides of the argument.

Warriors, come out and play-aye!!

That was the dumbest thing I've read in a long time.

Completely agree. And what a lot of higher ups are missing is you treat your Infantry like shit compared to your pogs.

When I was a grunt I worked longer hours, did more miserable work, and statistically promoted less and promoted slower than many peers on the pog side. So you might think everyone ought to get treated the same but we have a way to go even to that goal.
Additionally the infantry is the heart and soul of the corps. A little bit of deference would he appreciated. In the old days this was called common sense, or "you look like an asshole kicking grunts out the chow line for being dirty when they just got to the rear after a month in the field" but we don't have that today.

Can't be done. Someone high up in the chain will just smack it down and we'll have another "Give the Black Beret Away" fiasco......

Without Intel would they even know where the fight is?

So i guess you've never been to a motorpool. You know, when 11b's break their stuff and a 91b has to fix it, then gets voluntold for some patrol after that. Or has to go pull a burnt up truck back to the motorpool then turn around and pull convoy security. Yeah, but they don't deserve the same level of respect... yeah that makes sense

Wow... This is sad

You anti warrior elites are all WRONG in your insipid weak ass PC view the ARMY TEAM(All Equal) is "everything" at the expense of the SHARP edge/KILLERS. There is MISSION and the SUPPORT of MISSION. WE are to KILL the enemy not cook,fuel or civil affairs him to death. The Green machine is NOT about social experiments ,social advancement or "all men are created equal" BS, it is about WINNING at all cost,not "koom-bi-yah" were all equal at all cost.
BRAVE RIFLES.

What a can of worms you have opened.. I worked as an MP for a Special Operations Command for over 13 yrs.. Operators, Rangers and most 11B's that have been in the "shit" receive their due respect and high regards.. That said.. I NEVER felt like I was "less" of a Soldier or "less" deserving of respect because I was "just'" an MP.. These "warriors" always treated us like family.. maybe because they slept under the protection my guys provided. and YES.. we have beed toe-to-toe with the enemy with them as well. The only difference is training. Anyone can apply for Special Operations... and 11B was offered to everyone that joined. ONE TEAM, ONE FIGHT.. no one can do it alone...

Doesn't make much sense to me sargeant bo disrespect but im a medic on the line with an infantry unit and I go thru all the same stuff that the 11b i work with go thru. The same time there are a lot of apects that they are a higher regard in the things they do I think they deserve respect but they earn it in my eyes. Our supply nco earns my respect he keeps everything goin for us. Our support in my battalion gets down and dirty with the rest of us. So to say they don't deserve the same respect that an 11b should receive is not a valid picture to paint. They have to earn it.

I am actually shocked that anybody would even think about such an idiotic idea. Respect is earned, not given because of your branch insignia. It's a team sport, my friend. If you don't figure that out pretty quickly (you should have already) you are not going to see much success in your future.

How about instead of that ridiculous idea we actually hold leaders accountable and enforce the standards we have now.

No, the idea of regarding grunts higher than the rest of the Army implies that they do more or are more important. Without Intel you wouldn't know where the enemy was to fight. Without supply you would have what you need to fight. With out commo you wouldn't be able to communicate during the fight. Without food services you wouldn't be able to sustain your troops to fight. Every MOS is equally important.
And as for the idea that infantrymen rack their bodies more than anyone else take a look at any Armor Crewman or Scout or any combat arms MOS SSG or above and they are just as broken down and tired as an infantryman. This elitist idealism that 11Bs have is obsurd and I would think that a SFC would have the ability to think beyond the blind pride of an average private and realize the whole Army importance....guess not

Everyone saying without support infantry couldn't do their jobs are proving this guy right. Of the comments I've read in response to the original post their was only two that said one team one fight so to speak. To the guy who mentioned finance maybe finance should pay more attention to Soldiers pay so he wouldn't have to come crying to you!! By the way most fianance is run by civilians most support jobs have civilians all infantry jobs have Soldiers!!! Just saying. I believe one team one fight. Maybe 15 years ago when there was not this type of war being fought Infantry should have been treated differently I don't know though I wasn't in back then. It takes a special person to join the Military and i did my time and I'm proud of it. I thank you all for your service!!!