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I believe Infantry and Operators should be treated with a higher regard in the military.
Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.
The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.
This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.
The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.
This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
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11B: Infantryman
11B: Infantryman
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I was in a support MOS 92G, while I was a cook I worked more hours and made sure my 13 bang bangs got more than their fair share when the came through the chow line even to make sure the simplest thing as getting a hot meal would, could possibly remind them something of home away from.
Now that being said being an infantryman when I see other support MOS escp. Cooks I know the hard work that they put in and I make sure to thank them whether in garrison or in the field.
Now that being said being an infantryman when I see other support MOS escp. Cooks I know the hard work that they put in and I make sure to thank them whether in garrison or in the field.
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Respect has to be earned. NO to the question. What about "team" don't you understand. Yea, I down voted you because if this is how you think, then you need to reclass into a CSS MOS and learn a bit.
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1. This POG will kick your ass. Proven at every combatives tournament.
2. I am a mechanic who does all the training you do, would have been the only true blue at EIB lanes if I was 11 series, selected over all combat arms to be COL's PSO, still selected for 7 in 7, and still have to fix your trucks everyday.
3. I did 3 deployments in 5 years, all combat positions down range. Don't tell me shit. Rant complete.
2. I am a mechanic who does all the training you do, would have been the only true blue at EIB lanes if I was 11 series, selected over all combat arms to be COL's PSO, still selected for 7 in 7, and still have to fix your trucks everyday.
3. I did 3 deployments in 5 years, all combat positions down range. Don't tell me shit. Rant complete.
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that's fine, as long as you recognize those that reclassed after their early days, if you see a PAC NCO, or supply sgt, or cook with an EIB or CIB, recognize him as such
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I find it offensive that you classify infantryman with operators while in the same breath belittling every other warfighter. Is that close in air support your receiving....you know the dude dodging rockets any less of a warfighter. I appreciate your bravado and the my job is more dangerous then yours mentality but you are not special. I promise you that if you don't show up tomorrow your service will roll on. You are no bigger then your unit, your command, and your service. Think I'm kidding.....run out of toilet paper and see who the most important person around is.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
You are so right Chief. I have always strived to be a top-performer, but I know at the end of the day, without me, things would still roll on. I have had the pleasure of working with many fine people over the last 30 years in military and civilian life, some truly great people. But they retire, and for the most part the team just closes ranks and continues on. Perhaps they deserve some credit for that fact, but the fact remains we all can be replaced.
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Well there it is, the stupidest thing I'll read all day. I'm embarrassed for you SFC for making such an absurd statement. I have been a POG for my 25 years of service, had a POG job when I was deployed to Afghanistan. In my career I always had a high respect for the Infantry for obvious reasons. I knew they were warriors and my job was to provide proper support to them. I didn't need anyone to point that out to me. That came to me with my own common sense.
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I am a 13B and have deployed 3 times 1 to iraq and 2 to the stan. All three times i have done patrols and fought the enemy earned a purple heart and lost brothers and delivered some real pain to the enemys of my country. I am not infantry but in this days wars we have been used along with other MOS in this way for the entirety of this war and i have never regretted it. But if you say just infantry and operators then your are sadly mistaken on the dynamics of our current battfield you should do some research before making comments that hold no weight
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I am a mustang officer. I was Infantry enlisted and Armor as an officer. I served in combat as an NCO and a Officer. I earned both the CIB and CAB. I say this, not to toot my horn, but to give context to my comment.
I think that the Infantry plays a very special role in the military. It is the Queen of Battle for a reason (think Chess). it is the only branch whose main mission is to close with and destroy the enemy. Other combat arms and combat service and support branches are also exposed to danger on a regular basis, but they are not tasked with the same purpose as the Infantry.
All that said, I don't remember ever hearing one 11 or 19 series soldier ever give respect by POG's as a reason for serving in their respective branches (I use this two branches only because they are the ones I served with in Iraq).
To demand respect by others is a bit much. It is earned, not demanded. The Infantry and combat arms guys already know they are the warrior class. We don't need recognition from others. In fact, the sina quon non of our branches is not to give a crap what others outside of them think.
I think that the Infantry plays a very special role in the military. It is the Queen of Battle for a reason (think Chess). it is the only branch whose main mission is to close with and destroy the enemy. Other combat arms and combat service and support branches are also exposed to danger on a regular basis, but they are not tasked with the same purpose as the Infantry.
All that said, I don't remember ever hearing one 11 or 19 series soldier ever give respect by POG's as a reason for serving in their respective branches (I use this two branches only because they are the ones I served with in Iraq).
To demand respect by others is a bit much. It is earned, not demanded. The Infantry and combat arms guys already know they are the warrior class. We don't need recognition from others. In fact, the sina quon non of our branches is not to give a crap what others outside of them think.
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SN Greg Wright
CPT (Join to see) So I'm curious, Captain. What do you say to the Naval Fire Controlman who can push a button -- just ONE Sailor, mind you -- and annihilate 300 infantrymen. Does THAT service member deserve respect? Where does the 'Queen of Battle' theory fall then?
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CPT (Join to see)
Look, I have nothing but respect for anyone that puts on a uniform. I thank you for your service. My comment was a dig at that soldier whining about havin respect. You didn't pick up on it but, I'm sure he did.
As to your question directly, no, I do not consider a person who sits behind a computer screen and pushes a bottom that then fires off and travels miles before hitting its intended target a warrior in the same class as Infantrymen.
You sit behind that computer and never see nor personally experience the horrors of what you do. You face very little danger from the forces we are currently involved with. You sleep in a bunk and eat freshly cooked meals. You have access to clean clothes, water and don't really have to worry much about the oppressive heat or cold in your nice operations room you sit in. You don't have to train for hours on end on the intricacies of tactics or become an expert in the use of your weapons. Other than the technical training to push that little button and hpw to ensure you don't kill the wrong 300 Infantrymen, I doubt that you receive much training in the field of dismounted combat operations. You don't jump a rucksack that weighs half your body weight for miles on end while wearing 50lbs of personal protective gear up and down the hills and mountains of Afghanistan. You don't have to see your buddies laying on the ground in a pool of their own blood after being hit with an IED, or shot, or stabbed! So no, SN Greg White, I don't consider you one of the warrior class. I don't think less of you for it, but you are not one of us!
As to your question directly, no, I do not consider a person who sits behind a computer screen and pushes a bottom that then fires off and travels miles before hitting its intended target a warrior in the same class as Infantrymen.
You sit behind that computer and never see nor personally experience the horrors of what you do. You face very little danger from the forces we are currently involved with. You sleep in a bunk and eat freshly cooked meals. You have access to clean clothes, water and don't really have to worry much about the oppressive heat or cold in your nice operations room you sit in. You don't have to train for hours on end on the intricacies of tactics or become an expert in the use of your weapons. Other than the technical training to push that little button and hpw to ensure you don't kill the wrong 300 Infantrymen, I doubt that you receive much training in the field of dismounted combat operations. You don't jump a rucksack that weighs half your body weight for miles on end while wearing 50lbs of personal protective gear up and down the hills and mountains of Afghanistan. You don't have to see your buddies laying on the ground in a pool of their own blood after being hit with an IED, or shot, or stabbed! So no, SN Greg White, I don't consider you one of the warrior class. I don't think less of you for it, but you are not one of us!
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Sgt Joseph Baker
CPT (Join to see) - While my limited field training was sufficient to cause me to respect grunts, the truth is artillery fire historically kills far more enemy than grunts ever do. Add in the downpour of JDAMs and basically you grunts only kill a fraction of the enemy. So, while you already have the respect of everyone here, you over-play your hand IMHO like the grunt who started this thread, just not to the same degree. Oh, and let us not forget that pretty much all our grunts since Vietnam have served under a blanket of airborne protection so they generally don't have to worry about being bombed from the above, and have ready access to bombs dropped on anyone who tries to lob mortars on you for more than 5 minutes, so in that regard you face far less danger than your predecessors.
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