Posted on Dec 1, 2015
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I believe Infantry and Operators should be treated with a higher regard in the military.

Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.

The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.

This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
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SPC Combat Medic
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Decisive and elitist........
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SPC Combat Medic
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Divisive and useless....
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SSG Bradley Ford
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Yes because only a few will join so we have to be more like old cultures. Sparta
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SSgt Tim Ricci
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There already is! But most of them are dead!
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MAJ Alvin B.
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I would respectfully disagree. There is an old saw "Amateurs discuss tactics - Professionals discuss logistics." The warrior ethos is not limited to just warriors. Everyone gets some level of combat training upon entry into the service. However, select members go on to advanced combat training, while still others go on to further specialization in combat (SOF, etc...).
IMHO every uniformed service member must know how to fight and win (there are no front lines) if the need arises.
However that fighting ability is not always going to be called upon, or executed with a bayonet, pistol or rifle [How adept are you with electronic warfare, directed energy weapons, cyber systems, etc...?]. The pointy end of the sword is only as effective as the steel from which it was forged, the pointy end of the spear is useless without the shaft to which it is mounted. It is not just about the skill of the warrior who wields it on the battle field.
My point is this, it takes all kinds of warrior to ensure we are able to project, sustain and maintain combat power in any situation from the bottom of the sea to the deepest cold outer space. Being a warrior is not simply about being able to inflict bodily harm on others.
In reality, in America, forty-two years volunteer military service has created a warrior class. Roughly speaking we have @300 Million citizens in this country and less then 2 million in uniform (all components), that is less that 1%. In total, less than 7% of the population has ever served in the military.
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PO2 Ron Burling
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Well said, Major!
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I just wanted to see where everyone would go with this. I'm seeing a lot more my without my specialty there would be no you.

This question was asked more out of people looking at themselves and asking where do I fit in? It was also asked because true Combat arms guys need more help when they come back. That should not go through the same "one shot" classes everyone else does. They need to feel safe and know that they will not be seen as lesser when asking for help. I spent many years with undiagnosed PTSD because it's not what we get. I went to mental health a few times but it was packed with cooks, supply PAX and a lot of other sustainment personnel. I did not feel comfortable because I know in my heart that they do not endure stuff on a day to day basis like we do. I would have felt more secure going in with my brothers.

My question was for my research so I can pitch some new stuff to G.Os.
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SGM Lynette Streitfield - I would be proud to provide transportation to you, SGM.
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MCPO Roger Collins - Thank you! I'd return the favor over a few beers.
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SGM Lynette Streitfield - Got to be careful drinking with you Jarheads. Last time I went into a Marine bar in Hawaii, it didn't turn out so well. Long ago, I was advised not to say anything to the brig gang, which I did, and not to mess with little "Joe", which my buddy did. As I recall picking myself up after being evicted, with a few pains, we went back to the barracks and sobered up. NOT to return. But, you wouldn't beat up an old sailor, would you???? Wish there were more like you in the military today.
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MCPO Roger Collins - I just try to keep it real, Shipmate!
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SGT Morrison  (Mike) Hogwood
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So i guess that medic or mechanic that just shot the enemy to save your @ss is not not as good you or other soldiers,we all went through the same basic combat training at one point to be a team,I do understand that those who chose special ops ,do have special skills that are used for special warfare .So that being said 11B is just another MOS in the Army
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CSM Vern Pratt
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So you say you are not putting down Soldiers not of the combat arms ranks yet you want to set combat arms as an elite class? The Army cannot function effectively as a caste organization and in case you haven't noticed 21st century warfare is no longer fought only in areas forward of the line of troops. The Marines understand that every Marine is a war fighter and expect those Marines not of the combat arms classification to put aside their specific task and step into the role of combat. There will always be a need for infantry, calvary, and artillery, they are the forces that take battle into the enemies territories but without those combat support and combat service support combat arms are just paper soldiers.

Be a Soldier, set a high standard of conduct and comraderie for all Soldiers to emulate.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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Frack, what they are putting in Wheaties now adays. Sorry to disappoint you, but your thoughts don't sway me one bit, nor should they sway anyone. First, At best your argument is weak and shows no facts. Second, neither those high-speed devices that you use have to be maintained by someone who isn't part of your warrior elite class system, nor is the aircraft you flew on, or the pay system. I dare some of those systems take more schooling, and hands on experience then being Super Secret Double Nought Spy (Ode to Jethro Bodine for that one). Lastly, history, Infantry has not always done the greatest things on the battlefield. You have done some outstanding things, and you have had some FUBAR moments as well. As I am working on a Civil War Medal of Honor project, I have gotten to read about Band Members who stepped up when others failed, Artillery Units that stayed with their guns when the Infantry retreated, and other events that did not always show the Infantry in the best of light.
This has to come into play if you are trying to make your case. Also, you have to look at some of the black marks of this nation and of the Army in particular that would most definitely not put you in an elite status of any kind: i.e. The Bonus Army event (Units involved were the 12th Calvary Regiment, and the 3rd Infantry Regiment), The Indian Wars (too many units to list here). How many infantry units have lineage to their Confederate Past? Hard to Claim being elite when your ancestors participated in some very dark things. Be happy you get your Infantry Badge, blue cord and blue disks, hell I might even go for platform shoes left over from the 1970's so you can feel taller. But treat you differently? ROFLMAO, would it mean I get to treat you differently when you get the track stuck, or blow the motor, or jack up some piece of equipment from doing something incredibly "special?"
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SSG Jeffrey Leake
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I joined the infantry because I wanted to. I didn't and don't expect to be treated any different then any other Joe. I'm no better then anyone else. We chose to be grunts. No one MOS should be treated better or put above another. I didn't join for ribbons, medals, or accolades. I joined to serve my country.
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