Posted on Mar 15, 2014
Should the Military make it mandatory to pull over and salute the flags at 0600 and 1700?
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When I first enlisted a soldier would pull his/her vehicle over, step out and salute the flag. Six years later, I've noticed that no one does this anymore. I've also seen Soldiers of all ranks either dart to their car or garage. Sometimes they even wait until after it has finished before stepping out of the buildings. What are your thoughts on this?
Posted 12 y ago
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If you can hear the music or see the flag it is already mandatory.
Some of us still need to learn the difference between "retreat" and "to the colors" though!
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I believe it should be mandatory to render honors. Where I believe common sense should come into play is looking at the traffic pattern of the installation and risk to motorists who do get out and render honors. The problem would be, Is the Installation Commander willing to assume risk for accidents and injuries to those whom would exit their vehicle and render honors?
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SEC Davenport if everyone stopped their vehicles. There shouldn't be any accidents, or minimal ones.
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Your absolutely correct SGT Myers, however if everyone did like they were supposed to we wouldn't need to have Military Police Men/Women patrolling our installations.
There will always be individuals that want to buck the system or just do their own thing.
There will always be individuals that want to buck the system or just do their own thing.
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For me, Its an honor to salute the raising or lower of the flag. Ducking into a building isn't what I signed on for.
Your post clearly shows how some people feel about our Colors.
Its like the news story a while back of the base theater where the national anthem was playing before a movie. The sound cut out but the picture kept rolling. The audience sang the rest of it. There is true patriotism.
Your post clearly shows how some people feel about our Colors.
Its like the news story a while back of the base theater where the national anthem was playing before a movie. The sound cut out but the picture kept rolling. The audience sang the rest of it. There is true patriotism.
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unless I misunderstand the regs. It is mandatory to stop your vehicle, get out and salute the flag @ 0600 & 1700. It was required when I served and it was/is required during my sons time in. The problem for the most part is disrespect, disrespect for the flag,uniform,military history,Country, Constitution and mainly disrespect for themselves. If a child is raised without learning about respect from parents, school, or community then they do not know of respect so therefor show no respect. If my children disrespect the flag, that so many have fought and died for, it will become a very bad day for them.
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This tradition should never have been stopped, as far as I know, it used to be part of the general orders and should still be mandatory to stop and salute regardless of whereabouts on the base! It is most definitely an honor to stop and salute the flag when it is being raised or lowered, this is not only a tradition. It is an honor!
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Of course there were plenty of times it felt like a Nuisance but after 17 years retired I miss hearing Taps and the associated end of day beginning of day ceremonies. I always felt proud participating too. If ever you get a chance see the full twilight tattoo, Washington DC on the Elipse.
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I remember during my first tour of duty from 1979-1982 that we were trained to pull over and exit our vehicles whether military or civilian at 0600 and again at 1700 to render honors to the flag. How this tradition fell by the wayside is beyond me, but in my opinion it needs to be reinstated. Any soldier driving a car or riding a motorcycle on post who fails to pull over and render honors should be cited and be subject to non-judicial punishment for their first offense, after that I leave it up to the "experts" who work in the Judge Advocate Generals office. The flag is our national symbol and as such it deserves the utmost respect.
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Both of the units I have been with still do this and if I saw this happen immediately after the flag was up or down I would confront this person and depending on there response report it to there COC
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Even out here in Montana on a National Guard post (Fort Harrison) we are required to pull over, get out and render honors. There is a state park about a mile from post. When the bugle blows on post military personnel and veterans their also stop what they are doing and "face the music." We may get some questioning stares from the civilians, but when we explain our actions to them, they are generally impressed.
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They make it mandatory on Shaw AFB, the only thing is you don't get out of your car. The first time I got out of my car to salute (normal for a Soldier) the AF Security Forces yelled at me to get back in my car. They don't get out and salute just pull over. Other than that if I am out and about I salute if I am in uniform or stand at attention if I am not. My son even does it in the housing area. Him and I were playing basketball and when retreat went off we both immediatly stopped, then once the National Anthem started (AF Base standard) we went to attention and put our hand over our hearts. My son is 13 and did this. Proud of that boy
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