Posted on May 6, 2014
Should veteran status be reserved for those who have deployed?
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This one has come up a lot in conversations with my peers and Soldiers: Should you be allowed to claim veterans status if you have never deployed?
Personally, I'm an ROTC graduate who chose to go straight into the ARNG in 2011, knowing full well that my chances to deploy would be next to none with the changing op tempo. Realistically, had I been actively searching out a deployment the whole time, I still may not have gotten one. I'm sure there are Soldiers out there who served honorably in a reserve component without deploying, despite their best efforts. So, for example, should a Soldier who completed basic training, had a clean service record, excelled in their peer group, but ultimately served 10 years as a reservist with no deployment and less than 180 days on non-ADT active service be prevented from calling themselves a veteran?
I have my own thoughts, but I'm more interesting in hearing your opinions. For clarification, I'm speaking more towards the legal definition of veterans status - even if the laws were changed here, there would still be an immense difference between a legal veteran and a legal veteran with several deployments, combat experience, decades on active duty, or a combination of all three.
Personally, I'm an ROTC graduate who chose to go straight into the ARNG in 2011, knowing full well that my chances to deploy would be next to none with the changing op tempo. Realistically, had I been actively searching out a deployment the whole time, I still may not have gotten one. I'm sure there are Soldiers out there who served honorably in a reserve component without deploying, despite their best efforts. So, for example, should a Soldier who completed basic training, had a clean service record, excelled in their peer group, but ultimately served 10 years as a reservist with no deployment and less than 180 days on non-ADT active service be prevented from calling themselves a veteran?
I have my own thoughts, but I'm more interesting in hearing your opinions. For clarification, I'm speaking more towards the legal definition of veterans status - even if the laws were changed here, there would still be an immense difference between a legal veteran and a legal veteran with several deployments, combat experience, decades on active duty, or a combination of all three.
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You raised your Right Hand, You signed the dotted line, It was Witnessed !!! ... Just What the HELL are we ?? one of Santa's ELVES ??? I Should know; APPARENTLY ALL I did was party for four years on a "Party Barge" according to Congress and the VA...
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What is a Veteran? Title 38 of the Code of Federal Regulations defines a veteran as “a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable."
Anyone who wishes to claim that only those deployed can claim the title of Veteran can come see me. If you put your name on the dotted line and you served and were discharged HONORABLY you are a Veteran. There are literally 10's of thousands of Veterans who never deployed anywhere and until the GWOT I was in that category. If your peers or your soldiers say that you are not a Veteran because you did not deploy they need some help and I'm not talking about the kind where you go see a Psychologist/Psychiatrist.
Anyone who wishes to claim that only those deployed can claim the title of Veteran can come see me. If you put your name on the dotted line and you served and were discharged HONORABLY you are a Veteran. There are literally 10's of thousands of Veterans who never deployed anywhere and until the GWOT I was in that category. If your peers or your soldiers say that you are not a Veteran because you did not deploy they need some help and I'm not talking about the kind where you go see a Psychologist/Psychiatrist.
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Once you raise your hand your a veteran of that passage. Taking the oath and doing what's asked of you is what's important. It takes at a minimum 3 supporting soldiers for every one combat arms troop. It take everyone to win the battle.
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Let's see, soldier was in a training jump accident and medically retired, or jumped into country and sent home for same activity and never fired their rifle or fired upon. Tell me the difference please... Enough said!
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I did 32 years, active and reserve. I have heard some say that because I was Air Force I should not claim veteran status.
This is horse pucky. I heard the rockets and mortars falling around my head. I saw the ripped and torn bodies of my comrades. Any one who thinks I am not a veteran is a fool.
This is horse pucky. I heard the rockets and mortars falling around my head. I saw the ripped and torn bodies of my comrades. Any one who thinks I am not a veteran is a fool.
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Imho, anyone who served honorably and retired, was discharged or resigned a commission is a vet. VFW and Foreign Legion are honors reserved for Combat Vets.
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SPC Robert Coventry
American Legion is if you served during war time I am in the American Legion because I was in Basic training during Grenada. I did 2 years in Panama, deployed to Honduras and 2 years at Fort Campbell. Zero combat, not because I didn't want to.
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I think it's silly. You go where you're needed. Whether it's abroad or overseas, it's irrelevant. You signed, you served, you're a veteran.
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I say yes that regardless of if you have fought in a war or not, if you have served your country with the full knowledge that you could be called to war at any time , and are willing to answer it, you deserve the title. Case in point, my father was in when the M249, M9 and HMMWV's were tested and fielded. His BN was one of the first to be issued these new 'toys' and he helped to develop the TTP's for implementing them in simulated combat scenarios in various locations(some suggestions fell on dead ears because 2/3 were recommended for the dumpster). Then when the call came for Desert Shield everyone was all packed and ready to go, but Desert Storm kicked off and shortly thereafter his BN was disbanded and he got out of the military. He had always held a bit of animosity towards the situation to the point where he didnt stand up when all Veterans were called upon to stand up during BCT graduation, and he stay seated, because he didnt feel like he had actually been able to do his part to earn the right to be called a Veteran until one of my friends that was in OIF1 told him that you don't get to choose your war. After I got back from AFG I gave him a cold war veteran shirt and he wears it consistently enough for it to show up on FB regularly.
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