Posted on Mar 23, 2016
Should veterans and retirees be "Triple Dipping?"
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We hear about how all these Vets are triple dipping, but I don't think people are educated on how hard it actually is to do this, and how very small of a percentage of people can qualify to do this.
You have to meet all of these requirements: Serve over 20 years, receive a 50% or more VA Rating, be deemed unemployable or 100% disabled by the VA, AND qualify for SSI benefits.
You have to meet all of these requirements: Serve over 20 years, receive a 50% or more VA Rating, be deemed unemployable or 100% disabled by the VA, AND qualify for SSI benefits.
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Why is it called triple or even double dipping if you earned it. Look at congress and all the benefits they claim. A lot of disabled veterans would rather be whole than draw a disability for an incident they had very little control over (war). What is pain, loss of limb and sight, separation from family, duty to Country, and a number of other things worth?
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Sounds like you are trying to deny a disabled veteran his due? Are you aware that those retired veterans rated less than 50% are the only people who pay their own disability? Dollar for dollar offset until their disability passes 50%. Using your analogy, I am a double dipper receiving VA disability at 100% and SSDI. DO you want to reduce my benefits?
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I gave all I had!!! Got out and hid my disability from all employers. Worked for three different employers drawing pensions from all three. At 55 could no longer work because doctors and employer thought I was a hazard in the work place. Went on Social Security disability. Finally went to VA they said You are 100% where have you been I earned it and do not feel bad for getting every penny. I have been in pain and with my health conditions that were present the day I was discharged could die any day. I have fought the battle do not hold this against me now. I did what I could as long as I could I earned everything I get and suffer for it everyday.
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When I read the question I thought you were talking about retired military with a disability who are also federal government civilians. I know a few of these folks, but none whose disability I'd wish for. Then there's triple dippers like me: retired military, retired civil service, drawing social security. Fair? Yes. I served the years to get military and civil service retirement. I paid into Social Security for 48 years.
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Wow I couldnt have said this any better!! I too am a triple dipper. I retired as a Sgt only after 8 years. The army tried to just medically separate me. But after a long battle they realized retiring me was the right thing to do. I am 100% disabled as well. And I have a slew of ailments that keep me from working. I'm tired of the complaining and the narrow minded comments about this. If any of these complainers were in our boat they would be taking advantage of this as well. Believe. Me I miss the grind. I'd go back to work in a heartbeat if I thought I could be successful. But that's not the case. And that's all we get. For life. There's no raises no overtime that's it. So whit acting like we're taking something away from others and acting like we're living the life of luxury cause I assure you it's not the case!!
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It no business of anyone what someone gets or doesn't get. If they qualify for the payment and get it good for them.
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It's not triple dipping it's separate programs that they are qualifying for with years of service and a broken body!
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The military is underpaid to begin with. If you stick it out and retire you deserve the pay. If you are given a disability rating from them or the VA then there is a reason for it and you deserve the pay. You paid into the SSI system so if you legitimately qualify for SSI then you deserve the pay. What is the problem? I don't see anything wrong with getting what you deserve. May our leaders in DC should have to qualify for what they get as I don't see them earning what they are paid as it is.
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A military pension is a reward from the people of the United States for more than 20 years of active duty service. Many of us are lucky that we came out ok and never made a VA claim, but many did not. We serve and if the system approves the extra benefits (I don’t want to use the word dipping) we are entitled, go for it, anyway to receive those benefits from the VA system have to be approved VA don’t going to give you anything free you have to proved it happened during your military service. Also many Veterans are wrong in prejudging other veterans because the benefits we are entitled and they don’t receive, no one knows what that veteran went through in his or her military service. My 20 years plus, my VA disability are my reward and entitlement, my regular social security benefits are my quotas that I pay with more than 45 years of hard work. I hate the word dipping.
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LCDR Mike Morrissey
Only to clarify or give my take. Our military retirement isn’t a reward though I appreciate your take.
In the DOD budget, our retirement is funded in much the same manner as corporations. In fact there has been deliberations which recognize that military personnel are also paid below civilians of equal positions...though a gunner and a shop supervisor are hard to equate.
My point is that our retirement is no more a reward than a company’s or civil service’s retirement.
For me there is a certain mental picture which differentiates something that is a reward and something that is earned or is an entitlement. The first can have a capriciousness and the other is fixed in law. Another take is the difference between subservience and equality. Rewards flow down. (Seldom does a subordinate reward a senior.) Not so entitlements which technically equally distributed by lawful requirements.
Just to finish my take. I think of the difference between a medal and a paycheck.
In the DOD budget, our retirement is funded in much the same manner as corporations. In fact there has been deliberations which recognize that military personnel are also paid below civilians of equal positions...though a gunner and a shop supervisor are hard to equate.
My point is that our retirement is no more a reward than a company’s or civil service’s retirement.
For me there is a certain mental picture which differentiates something that is a reward and something that is earned or is an entitlement. The first can have a capriciousness and the other is fixed in law. Another take is the difference between subservience and equality. Rewards flow down. (Seldom does a subordinate reward a senior.) Not so entitlements which technically equally distributed by lawful requirements.
Just to finish my take. I think of the difference between a medal and a paycheck.
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