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PO1 Kevin Dougherty
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A service related disability is a service related disability, is a service related disability. A loss of hearing is just as real from engines or high pressure air as from an explosion, and likewise for any other injury.
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SSgt David Marks
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No. I receive a monthly VA Service Connected Disability check. My disability is a back injury while doing security detail on the flightline at the then Torrejon AB, Spain. The only thing I have a problem with is the VA only gave me a 10% disability, 15 yrs later I finally got it up to 20%. I have to use a walker now all attributed to my back injury and all they give me is 20%? My son was recently discharged medically, he hasn't lost any limbs, he has to deal with back pain like me, the VA gave him 100% disability. I get $262.oo a month, he gets a little over 4000.oo a month. The system is unfair, because I only have 20%, I have to jump through hoops in order to see a specialist. For instance I'm still trying to get an appointment with Neurosurgery, still hasn't happened. My son doesn't have to get a referral to see a specialist, he just goes to the section and boom he's got the appt. He gets travel pay for every time he goes to the VA, I only bet it when I'm seen for my service connected injury. Anyway you should NOT be ashamed of receiving a VA check. Good luck.
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Sgt Jon Mcvay
Sgt Jon Mcvay
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I have a back injury also along with a foot too. I'm at 60% go figure.
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SPC Vonnie Jones
SPC Vonnie Jones
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Did you get a Nexxus letter to try for an increase? noithing ever failed but a try.
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SPC Robin Price-Dirks
SPC Robin Price-Dirks
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What's a Nexxus letter????
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COL Charles Williams
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SGT (Join to see) Absolutely Not! Why do you ask?

Over the course of a military career, especially as a ground troop, you can (and will) sustain a wide variety of physical (an possibly psychological) ailments. The military (Army) by nature is a very physically demanding career field, where you can easily sustain injuries that you carry for life - Road Marching, Airborne Operations, Night Operations, Air Assault Operations, Live Fires, and the list goes on. If it is in the line of duty, and service connected, it is within the realm of things the VA will consider. I was in the Army 33 years, and most of my service connected disabilities are not directly related to combat operations; only TBI, headaches, and an eye injury are. I spent about 6 years of that 33 deployed on various operations, which a fair amount of time, but I spent a lot more of that time in high end training, and PT... etc. More injuries happen in training, that in combat.
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Simulating war can sometimes be as dangerous as war itself as you have said so well. Thank you Colonel!
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COL Charles Williams
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SSG Jon Hill - I would say things Combat Training Centers, Fire Fires, Combined Live Fire Exercises, Airborne and Air Assault Operations. As a MP, a Maneuver Support Soldier, when you are in support (living with) Infantry, they expect you to act like infantry. That in and of itself is a demanding career, and supporting is demanding as well. Although I unfortunately sustained some combat scars and injuries, the vast majority of my injuries were from running, jumping, rappelling etc. I have seen unfortunately seen Soldiers injured and killed too many times in combat, but there have also been many in simply training exercises. In most Light Infantry Divisions, the high end expectation is a platoon can conduct a live fire assault. I have seen Soldiers shot, blown-up and killed in such training; thankfully none in my units, but it happens. I have seen Soldiers badly injured and killed in helicopter accidents. The list goes on. I hurt my left knee on the 61st day of Ranger School, when my stupid belay man failed to slow me down on a UH60 rappel, and with all the weight, and lack of muscle at that point, I hit the ground so hard my knees have never been the same... That was 1985, and I retired in 2013. Running and road marching take a toll as well. I can't remember an Airborne operation where someone didn't get hurt... most times badly. My last jump, at Fort Bragg, a Captain fractured his pelvis and back, and was eventually medical discharged. Many jobs, have even higher injury rates just due to the equipment, lifting, crushing injuries etc. I was an Armor Officer when I was commissioned and that is an injury laden career field. Take your branch... who does not sustain hearing loss as a field artillery Soldier?

In the post 911 era, we saw many leg, back and neck injuries just from the weight of all gear and helmets, and jump off of things... or just wearing it for months on end. On most days, a ground Soldier carries in excess of 100 pounds all tolled.

Nevertheless, injuries are injuries, whether in training or on combat operations. Over the course of a career, we spend much more training to fight then we do fighting.

The military is wonderful, but it takes a toll, no matter what you do or where you do it.
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If you have been only a reservist or guardsmen and never deployed and claim PTSD, I have zero tolerance and not one ounce of respect for their theft of services from the VA. I have seen it too many times and it is disgusting.
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CW4 Robert Goldsmith
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1SG Boyd, I understand your sentiment; however, VA recognizes three types of PTSD (combat, personal trauma and military sexual trauma). There are many former active-duty members that never deployed who claim PTSD as well. Abusers can always be reported to VA Office of the Inspector General. The greedy "non-disabled" Veterans trying to get to 100 percent disability often get caught and reduced on future examinations. Others are determined to be mentally incompetent by VA and are appointed fiduciaries over VA compensation payments. There will always be some who slip between the cracks, but you reap what you sow.
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CPL Kayla Mosely Your statement about God should not have been used. Just because it happens does not mean god willed it. If someone robs you and takes your money, god did not make that happen either. Do not us the term that god is in control of everything to validate your actions. Because since the fall, god has given us free will. We are able to choose. As for your VA issues they are yours. I know many who have a 100% disability that are completely able. Those doing so are no leads a thief than the guy who steps in to the store with a gun to rob a cashier. Physical fitness prevents clumsiness and in turn prevents some injuries.
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SPC Samantha Stapley
SPC Samantha Stapley
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SSgt Addison R. - I was thinking the same thing!
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SPC Vonnie Jones
SPC Vonnie Jones
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Top I was active Army, but have a N G friend. S A during peacetime PTSD...I respect your rank, but I am sure you know horrible things happen during peacetime to National Guard and Reservists.
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Cpl Daniel Chumley
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SPC Ralph Ellis
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- You are up before probably 90% of the civilian workforce, and on many days you will get off duty a few hours after 90% of the civilian workforce.
- Many daily tasks in the military are exceedingly tough to perform, physiologically, and we take a highly-motivated, mission-first, do-or-die approach to said tasks or missions.

For years I watched mechanics in the motorpool go in directly after PT, and often not come back in the barracks, soaked in grease and ATF (and sometimes a bit of blood) @ 2200, only to wake up again and repeat.

Same with many other MOS's.
We are a self-sustaining fighting force that requires 100% commitment to maintenance of the unit and ones self to ensure mission readiness and effectiveness.

If you conduct yourself with the mission first attitude and dedication, and get injured in the line of duty, whether in garrison or in combat, then you are absolutely justified in utilizing the VA to receive disability compensation for "non-combat related injuries".

Anyone who says otherwise, in my opinion, is completely bereft of the realization of what we do and prepare for in the military.

You don't just "get a benefit-rich job" by joining the military.

You have signed on to:

A. Do what you are told to do, when and where you are told to do it.
B. Place your personal and family life secondary to the mission.
C. Hold yourself to extremely high, and secondary standards far exceeding social norm (AR 670-1, UCMJ enforced behavior standards, Courtesies and Customs, etc.)
D. Completely submit yourself to a secondary system of law that can effectively end your marketability and potential life-success when you get out, which is ultimately in the hands of the few appointed above you, not all of whom have your best interests in mind (unfortunately).

If, in the service of your country, in *any capacity*, you are injured, and it will have lasting effects, you are wholly justified, by virtue of what you signed on to do, selflessly, to receive VA benefits for said disabling condition.

For those of us who deployed into combat operations, we still deployed with this mentality and realization.

Sure, the effect of combat operations may have a slightly higher impact than something that happened in garrison, but this does not diminish the character of said person in garrison, or their contributions to the "one team, one fight" mission.

Acting as if a training accident is somehow "less valid" than an in-theater injury is indignant.
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SPC Ralph Ellis I agree wholeheartedly with your great comments and assessment of the question.
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SPC Ralph Ellis
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SGT (Join to see) - Thanks, SGT. I just get tired of the egotism or elitism that some people present simply because they sat on a FOB somewhere, and one of their injured counterparts didn't.

Someone who had a hydraulic line blow up in their face while maintaining heavy equipment in garrison is just as much a member of the team (and my brother and sister) as someone I deployed with, and every bit as honorable.
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SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
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Thanks for your commentaty,which is SPOT ON!
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TSgt Ground Radar Systems
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It wasn’t the Taliban that was driving the truck that crushed my knees when an inattentive driver pinned me to a wall. Hand I not been in the military would it not have happened? Maybe, but I’m not afforded the same civil options any other person is allowed. Just because you don’t see combat doesn’t mean you don’t share some of the same types of scars.
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TSgt (Join to see) I appreciate your outstanding reply to the post. As one of the previous posts stated, one does not have any control over when and how one is injured.
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Scott Stephenson
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Absolutely not! Anyone who has Honorably Served should not "Feel guilty" for receiving benefits they deserve or need.
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Thank you Scott Stephenson! I agree.
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Sgt Jon Mcvay
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I agree....but one has a hard time letting go of ....I let everyone down. I failed to meet my obligation to my country, my brothers/sisters in arms, Or can't rid of the badgering when injured by command/comrades (malingerer). Everyone went threw something different or the same that an injury brings to the table. There is no mental health that can cure it, I know I have been trying for the last 5 years getting help. Before that I just lived with it sense 1989 till today. It feels like why me something like why did they die and I survive. I don't have the answer to it and I try hard not to let it control me. For I still am a United States Marine, and will be till God calls me home.
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1SG Company First Sergeant
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Veterans should not feel badly about claiming ANY VA compensation for ANY disabilities incurred in the line of duty.
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Roger that 1st Sergeant. Out. 1SG (Join to see)
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Absolutely not. VA disability compensation was created to make ALL veterans whole for injuries and diseases caused by military service. VA disability payments are the military equivalent of workers compensation pay. If you are injured in a civilian job, you are entitled to worker's comp. payments. The only difference is that veterans deserve the disability payments more. Those who wore the uniform and took an oath should never feel bad about holding the government accountable to its promise. Whether an injury is combat related or non-combat related does not matter. As an infantry officer I saw soldiers crippled in training accidents. I also have plenty of buddies my age who did not deploy but can barely walk now from all of the peace-time ruck marches and airborne operations. I'm now a VA disability lawyer and I know thousands of veterans suffering from non-combat related injuries and they deserve every penny.
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Great answer, Colonel! My knees and back are shot from those long, long ruck marches with full load, weapon, and protective mask I have a friend who was in Delta Force and one of our civilian colleagues was telling us how she ran 5 miles every morning (she is a bit younger than we!). When she walked away, we laughed together, and said that's not going to happen. We are both in or nearly in our sixties, and we both have arthritic knees and backs. LTC (Join to see)
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