Posted on Dec 2, 2014
TSgt Jackie Jones
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In most states, the Court is recognizing Veterans that have committed a crime and offering a different type of program to them. (In line with the probation that they may already be granted). How do the masses feel about it?

I understand the specialized need for treatment for certain Veterans and that everyone should be treated as an individual, on a case by case basis, which I hope is how this would be carried out by all, but for those with significant criminal histories, should they get the specialized options?
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CPO David Sullivan
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For Drugs and Alcohol yes
Strong Arm robbery and Murder... No
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SFC Nyla Newville
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I think it depends on the circumstance, and I think there are too many Veterans already in prison instead receiving the help they needed and some times you don't realize you need help.
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SPC Richard White
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I think that courts should give Veterans the benefit of the doubt.Speaking from personal experience I was considered a threat to the community due to my training so my bail was revoked.Definitely not fair.
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SPC Thomas Lema
SPC Thomas Lema
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it depends on each case, but if they were involved in heavy combat , yes it should be taken into consideration. Because the armed forces turn members into having a mindset to kill if need be
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Sgt Harlin Seritt
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Absolutely not -- especially with the U.S. having a fully volunteer military. Our nation's justice system is founded on rule of law and the idea that all men/women *should* be treated equally. I don't think my military service should allow me to be punished less while others who would have committed the same crime be punished more. Issues like PTSD should be taken into account based on a person's sanity but people who have never served in the military can also be afflicted with this.
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LtCol Richard Edmonds
LtCol Richard Edmonds
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Sgt Seritt, please see my comment posted above that details exactly what a Veterans Treatment Court actually is. I hope you reconsider and maybe see how you might help in your area. Thanks
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
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Absolutely not, since I had the opportunity to sit in on a federal case involving a 20 yr NG veteran, who abused his position in a official capacity. Having served his country and then employed in a position of greater responsibility with the federal govt (ie; supervisor over the passport division) , He allowed non US citizens to travel with phony passports in and out of this country we all swore an oath too! He willfully and knowingly committed numerous rapes and took monetary favors in exchange. He will be serving the rest of his natural life in a federal prison, for as long as he lives.

He essentially betrayed every veteran both former and currently serving by his actions. So no veterans "DO NOT" deserve preferential treatment in a judicial system regardless of the crime. If you commit the crime do the time, it's as simple as that end of discussion . This E-7 is and was as indicated an "E-7" who lost touch with the real title befitting this individuals counter parts who wear their uniform with pride and leave the service with it intact .

Good on all of you who serve and have served your country to the highest standards, and will never waiver in this lifetime.
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LCpl James Robertson
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Its base on the mental state of mind and his/her physchiatrist as to whether he/she can be tried in a regular court of law.
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
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Absolutely and on this agenda I concur with 100%, anything other then that hell no!!!!!!
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SCPO Robert Bagnell
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I believe it will prove beneficial to not only the veteran, but also society in general. Veterans have many problems, including PTSD, not normally seen in the general population, some of these problems are exactly why the veteran is now in the criminal justice system. I have been involved in law enforcement both military and civilian for over 35 years and would advocate for programs for veterans similar to what we see with drug courts (for the general population) where not only is justice served, but what is in the best interest of the individual is also considered.
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SSG John M Jacobson Sr
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The Law is the Law. I am a veteran with PTSD but that does not put me above the Law. And if someone is using their PTSD as an excuse, and I know this would be hard to prove but we should not get any special favors just because we are veterans. After all is that not part of what we were defending? We have all put our time in to protect the constitution and the laws of our country, should we not also abide by those laws as well?
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Sgt G.P. Murphy
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Veterans Court has started in Mass. I am in the process of being trained as a Police prosecutor This along with Drug Court is available to those who wish to except the the help. We as peer's and Brother must work with our Brothers and Sisters to get involved with the treatment being offered, all cases are treated case by case, to shorten this please as always remember "Never in front of you, Never Behind you, Always Beside you" We must take care of our own.
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
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Lets do this before it even becomes a legal issue to start with, and we wont be discussing this issue to begin with ?
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LtCol Richard Edmonds
LtCol Richard Edmonds
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Good comment Senior Chief. I work setting up Veteran Treatment Courts, but I also work with employers to help identify veteran employees who may have PTSD issues or other issues. Then we try and find Veteran Mentors through Veterans organizations that can meet with "troubled" veterans and form peer mentoring groups. Kind of like an AA program for vets, guys who went through the same crap and can understand each other. I have worked with Dr. Jonathan Shay and it is his opinion that the best way to treat PTSD is with Peer Groups talking to each other, not with egg heads or others who have no idea what the Vets went through.
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
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LtCol Richard Edmonds

Your continued dedication beyond the service is a true testament of your character , I offer you a hearty salute . Bravo Zulu for the work you have done and are continuing too do with the VTC's and employers. The problem I encountered with the VA and my PTSD, after Viet Nam was setting me in front of a computer screen. Oh how can we help you Senior Chief, well you can probably guess how I responded. I still fight with the anger issues, especially when some dumb ass cut's me off on the interstate. So I have a new decal posted on the rear windshield below my Viet Nam Veteran, "If You Can Read This Your Within Range".
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I believe that in certain circumstances, yes there should be specialized cases for Veterans. Veteran's Court aims to help rehabilitate vets who might not have been ready to transition to civilian life. In MY case personally, I was not ready to transition, mentally or emotionally. My unit ignoring the personal issues I was having during my last year in, despite advice they were given by my doctor and the end result.. was basically an explosion. I got out with an honorable discharge thanks to my doctor, not my unit and my transition out was basically my unit and sergeant doing what they could to get me out of their hair as quickly as they could.

So I got out and got in trouble.. however I had no prior brushes with the law before enlisting OR during. If it hadn't been for the legal and rehabilitation help I received from the VA, I'm not sure where I'd be now. As it is now, I'm in school(doing well), paying for my own apartment, my own car, and insurance. And all of this happened 9 months ago. So.. my legal issues are clearly not a reflection of who I am as a person. If a person is not a repeat offender, I do believe that the VA should offer them specialized help and legal options. Service members have to deal with a LOT of things that civilians do not and honestly I believe that has a huge effect of their mental and emotional state which might effect how they act once out in the civilian world.

I think though, that it should be based on each specific case.
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