Posted on May 8, 2014
Should vets be able to share their strife with their leaders once they are no longer under their command?
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I just got done reading this letter in the link. I have my personal feelings on the subject, but I wanted the community view. Was this retired, triple amputee right or wrong for his comments? Should vets be able to share their strife with their leaders once they are no longer under their command?
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/triple-amputee-veterans-fck-letter-obama-presidents-day-goes-viral/
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/triple-amputee-veterans-fck-letter-obama-presidents-day-goes-viral/
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Responses: 40
I think anyone who has sacrificed as such as this airmen has earned the right to say whatever they want. While the content may lack in merit this is how this individual feels and I think its important to allow people to vent and express their frustrations. Sometimes people aren't looking for answers or a response. Sometimes people just need to vent and I'm OK with that.
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Where do folks keep getting this idea that veterans have to keep tight lipped when it comes to politics?!? We no longer fall under the UCMJ, we are the voice of those still serving. If we don't speak up for them then who the hell will?
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MSG (Join to see)
This guy doesn't speak for me. I'm not an Obama supporter, but inabsolutel disagree with anyone attacking the president. This was an attacking letter. And I only took time to read because he lost limbs. There are many who lost. I'm fortunate. But even when I retire, I'm not going to blame the rich for being rich. If his family had money, he'd be at that same school. And his views only support his political side. And not all on that side. I side with republicans, but I'd never support his letter, even if I were retired.
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Sgt Adam Jennings
If you got that he was blaming the rich for being rich you need to re-read this leader with a more open mind. 1st amendment guarantees us the right to criticize, or as you put it attack, the president like this.
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TSgt (Join to see)
Sgt Jennings,
You are right veterans do not fall under the UCMJ, but you would hope they learned a bit of respect/honor from it and the respective branch they served under. I agree with the MSG on this one he doesn't speak for me. I am not a fan of President Obama, but I am not ignorant/disrespectful either.
You are right veterans do not fall under the UCMJ, but you would hope they learned a bit of respect/honor from it and the respective branch they served under. I agree with the MSG on this one he doesn't speak for me. I am not a fan of President Obama, but I am not ignorant/disrespectful either.
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Sgt Adam Jennings
The only disrespectful part of the entire letter was where he called Obama a thug, oh my God, stop the presses. This is what our society has come to, people who get offended by the simplest things. I hate it that you think this young man stating facts is disrespectful, but he is well within his rights for telling Obama how he feels, whether you agree with him or not. Just as I don't agree with you two. I agree, the office of POTUS should be respected. But the man that holds that office and his actions are subject to ridcule and have been since the beginning of time. They tried to outlaw that once, we see how that worked out for them. Caused a cry out of foul from the citizens of this country.
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The simple answer is yes. The freedom of speech applies to everyone not just those you agree with. He is now a civilian and can express what he wishes. He has more then paid the price. Right, wrong or indifferent it is his opinion.
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While I believe we should all respect the office of the Commander and Chief, I also believe we in the military preserve our rights... one of which is freedom of speech. Brian Kolfage has given more than most of us to this Country, and he more than most has earned the right to speak his mind. President Obama has no concept of real service or sacrifice for the nation.
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I've read a lot of service members writings, many of my right leaning friends forward his stuff to me.
As an American citizen he has every right to say what he wants to whomever. As a veteran, disabled or not, once that DD214 is in hand he can run his mouth until the cows come home.
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Regardless of how I feel about his politics or the obama administration's policies, I do feel that his tone brings down his message. If someone were to speak to me in the tone and language he uses, I'd have serious thoughts about his first amendment right might meeting my second amendment right. (Wouldn't do it, but I'd think about it real hard). While I entertain those thoughts, I sure wouldn't be listening to anything else he had to say. If that letter had been addressed to me, I might have made out two paragraphs before it was circular filed.
Now if he's just preaching to the right, so be it. He needs to know that his message is going to stay in that echo chamber and never going to go anywhere. Just like the left echo chamber. The two groups don't meet except in very tightly specific areas.
He wasted an opportunity to do something great. He could have stood up for veterans issues given his unique situation. He could have been a great spokesman for current service members who don't have the same voice while serving.
Instead, he chose an inflammatory tone and style that shuts down any discussion on any issue with his name on it. He might get the opportunity to speak his mind, because of his citizenship, service or disability, but he's guaranteed that no one who doesn't already agree with him will listen to a word he says.
It's a waste and its sad.
Just my .02¢
As an American citizen he has every right to say what he wants to whomever. As a veteran, disabled or not, once that DD214 is in hand he can run his mouth until the cows come home.
But...
Regardless of how I feel about his politics or the obama administration's policies, I do feel that his tone brings down his message. If someone were to speak to me in the tone and language he uses, I'd have serious thoughts about his first amendment right might meeting my second amendment right. (Wouldn't do it, but I'd think about it real hard). While I entertain those thoughts, I sure wouldn't be listening to anything else he had to say. If that letter had been addressed to me, I might have made out two paragraphs before it was circular filed.
Now if he's just preaching to the right, so be it. He needs to know that his message is going to stay in that echo chamber and never going to go anywhere. Just like the left echo chamber. The two groups don't meet except in very tightly specific areas.
He wasted an opportunity to do something great. He could have stood up for veterans issues given his unique situation. He could have been a great spokesman for current service members who don't have the same voice while serving.
Instead, he chose an inflammatory tone and style that shuts down any discussion on any issue with his name on it. He might get the opportunity to speak his mind, because of his citizenship, service or disability, but he's guaranteed that no one who doesn't already agree with him will listen to a word he says.
It's a waste and its sad.
Just my .02¢
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SPC (Join to see)
That's the rub isn't it, MSG Tom Earley. I can't. My opinion is based off the facts I've collected and my perception of them. His facts and perception may and probably do differ and his resulting opinion definitely does.
I hope what I wrote didn't come across as an attack. Maybe, if I were in his shoes, I would do the same thing. I don't know, and honestly, I don't think anyone wants to know. This was just my answer to the original posters question and how I feel about the way he's chosen to express himself and my prediction as to the results of his actions.
I hope what I wrote didn't come across as an attack. Maybe, if I were in his shoes, I would do the same thing. I don't know, and honestly, I don't think anyone wants to know. This was just my answer to the original posters question and how I feel about the way he's chosen to express himself and my prediction as to the results of his actions.
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He has the right but it is very poor judgement and tacky. Yeah I get the frustration being a triple-amputee but really that is too much. Better way to handle one's feelings or berating family. That is just not cool. Besides Michelle Obama has grown during her time with President Obama on Capitol Hill, with regards to health. I applaud her and she even gave the Sniper movie a thumbs up.
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He has an opinion, and every right to it. He has no more or less right to it than any service member. I didn't find any new information, and factual inaccuracies were common to other documents.
I searched his name, then searched in connection to major news outlets. Then checked his face book page. I read a sampling of mentions of his name. It appeared that he was usually referred to as an expert in military matters. This reflects poorly on the quoting site, not the SrA.
But as to the factual accuracy of his letter, it does not reach the bar of credibility, if any other person had wrote it it would have never been mentioned again.
Take that as you will.
I searched his name, then searched in connection to major news outlets. Then checked his face book page. I read a sampling of mentions of his name. It appeared that he was usually referred to as an expert in military matters. This reflects poorly on the quoting site, not the SrA.
But as to the factual accuracy of his letter, it does not reach the bar of credibility, if any other person had wrote it it would have never been mentioned again.
Take that as you will.
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Of course the airman has the right to write a letter but his accusations against the president weren't based on facts but based on his own negative bias against this administration, more specifically the president. Because of that, the author loses all credibility. It’s almost like I felt obligated to read the letter due to his injuries, but the letter to me was an unprofessional rant that wasted my time. I wouldn’t blame the president for not responding, if that was the true intent. Based on the language and tone of the letter, I wouldn't be surprised if the letter was thrown away. There's a right way and a wrong way to professionally express criticism, IMO, this is evidence of the wrong way.
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SSG (Join to see)
Sir, would this also count as a disrespectful letter?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/07/04/127851/-Cindy-Sheehan-A-Beautiful-Rant
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/07/04/127851/-Cindy-Sheehan-A-Beautiful-Rant
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He is not venting, he is mourning not only his personal loss but the loss of his buddies. He is afraid the sacrifice was in vain and he maybe be right. I challenge all of you not believe for one second that any of our political class gives a rip about anything or anyone. They may talk the talk but they only care about getting re-elected. You see how fast they pillaged the defense department rank and file after the war so they could spend more money on weapons system because the military industrial complex funds their campaigns. Well I'm here to tell them "the American soldier is a weapons system."
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You bet he has the right to voice his opinion. He Mr. President fought for that right. Kudos to this hero for taking a stand.
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