Posted on Sep 11, 2021
SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres
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Please do not comment if you are still serving in the Military in some capacity; a/o where potentially your job, livelihood, or position could be at risk.
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I'm not for or against CRT. I stand with General Milleys response that a bunch of people chose to charge the Capitol and I don't share their POV so I don't really understand why. So I want to know what motivates them.

That's not entirely true for me personally, I grew up in the most racist place I've ever been in my entire life, Central Pennsylvania. I got chased and beat for being white, I saw people get beat for being black, and Puerto Rican, people wanted to burn crosses on our lawn, there were race riots at my school.... All that crazy stuff.

I have been the minority where everyone hates you for your skin color and it sucks. Most of America hadn't experienced that and they should learn that it exists. You should have empathy for your peers and the mud they had to crawl through to get where they are at.

I also don't agree with the schsim of CRT that believes people carry some type of race guilt. I know it's not that common, and I know that the rare occasion it pops up, the hard right news tries to use that as a cover for all CRT. You have crazies on the left that believe all white people should spend their lives atoning for the sins of their grand cousins, and you have crazies on the right who believe in things like "legitimate rape". The point is that crazy people are drawn to polarizing politics, and crazy politicians will capitalize on polarizing politics for short term gain.
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SPC Peter R.
SPC Peter R.
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Here is my point, again, do not engage in politics when in uniform. that is where I stand. However, I am not in uniform, so I will speak my mind freely. I also point out for sites like this and others to not tease soilders with whataboutisms as you put it, for sure you will bite, which will break your focus. If you didnt get my point on race during my service, then you didn't read it properly. read again.... ill gladly repeat my point over and over until it is understood. remember, I am not your enemy, the enemy is your enemy, that is all you need to know. You should be spending your time - if you are on active duty - training up, shyt is going down... that's another point. I didn't have internet when I was in, I was in the gym, on the trails, spending time with the ladies when possible.
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SPC Peter R.
SPC Peter R.
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AN (Join to see) - This response is aimed at any Soldier, not just you - Question Have you ever seen your drill sgt or command separate you while in uniform, formation, training, or war by the color of your skin? you won't... therefore the point of CRT is mute and should have never been presented - you are all Green/Desert colored... The more you work with each other, the sooner you will realize it is the Soldier next to you that matters most. You all get the same treatment based on your attitude and merit. If you are a Dude, then so be it. CRT is designed to separate you(us) into classes whereby elites try to divide and conquer they say, i say F... that. Get back to the gym/track/range and turn off your goddam computer. If you want to read up, try a book on Civil War, the Indian Wars, or Patton, or the Blue Book, something that applies to you - Soldiering... That is what real leaders need to be explaining and inforcing. Period.

My two bits ;) Njoy it while it lasts ;)
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SFC Thomas McMahon
SFC Thomas McMahon
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SFC (Join to see) I'm going to preface this by saying some of what I'm about say may seem like I favor a certain political party, however, not my intent as I despise politics and politicians even more.

I want to address your comments about people storming the Capitol and your wanting to understand their motivation. I work for a branch of Homeland Security, HSI, I'm in charge of a tactical team (SWAT essentially). I was there on 6 January, my profile picture was even taken there. First and foremost, it was nowhere near as bad as it's been made out to be by the media and a certain political party. We were aware well in advance of the large number of people that would be in the area that day, we requested a much larger force than we had and we were denied by the same people who were the most appalled by the events that transpired that day and are currently leading all sorts of investigations, which I find ironic, considering if they had listened and granted our requests for more personnel, none of it would have happened.

As you know, our country is extremely divided right now, by far the worst I've seen in the 43 years I've been alive. The majority, easily 99%, were just people there with good intentions, people frustrated with the state of politics, frustrated because they felt their voices weren't being heard, people who wanted answers regarding the irregularities with the election in November. I know that can be a sore subject with many, but as federal law enforcement agent with knowledge, there certainly were. To what extent, that's above my pay grade and we'll probably never know the truth. Enough to change the outcome, I don't know, if I had to guess, probably not. Regardless though, as a person sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution of our country, I think you'll agree that the citizens you and I serve need to be able to trust the process. There was less than a percentage of the people there that had bad intentions, and they're the ones who really started the whole thing as far as "breaching" barricades and entering the Capitol Building. The rest that entered, seemed to see this, and in the excitement or heat of the moment, decided to follow. The large majority of the people inside were for the most part just walking around, seemingly in awe of where they were. They were respectful to us and other officials they encountered, they didn't touch anything, pretty much acted like tourists. There were some bad actors in there, people that destroyed property, took souvenirs, engaged law enforcement......etc. Those were very few in numbers.

I can confirm this because videos of it can be found on the internet so it's not classified, but yes some of the Captitol Police abandoned their posts, moved barricades aside, and let protestors right on in. That is 100% the truth. I'll sum it up, of the more than 100,000 people in D.C. to rally and protest, less than 500 entered, and less than 50 of those were truly up to no good, it was mostly people getting caught up in the moment and making poor choices. As a law enforcement officer, I'll be the first to say every single one of them was wrong for entering that building, I think the whole excuse about it being "The People's house" is bullshit, you have to know better than that and use common sense. By the same token though, I have a problem with it being referred to as an insurrection as it definitely wasn't. A true insurrection requires planning, and with the intelligence capabilities of law enforcement in this country, and the sheer amount of snitches, no way we wouldn't have known beforehand of that type of plan. Like I mentioned before, due to the sheer number of people in attendance, we requested additional assets ahead of time just in case some got a little overzealous. Lastly on the so called insurrection, not a single person has been charged with insurrection or anything even remotely close, so that should tell you all you need to know, the most common charge has been simple trespassing.

I'm going to sum this up by saying the previous summer I was also at the riots in Portland, Minneapolis, Baltimore, Chicago, and Kenosha. Those were truly violent, truly destructive, the closest I've been to being in combat since I was in actual combat, and January 6th can't even be compared to those. I find it odd though, that through all the violence and destruction of those actual riots, very few people have been held accountable. The same political party and media raising such a stink about January 6th, were seemingly silent and not condemning all that actual violence taking place in American cities that were literally burning, people's homes and business destroyed, played off as the people have a right to be upset. Yet the amount of federal resources that have been poured into finding anyone within a mile of the Capitol that day is astounding. Seems as though they don't really care when everyday Americans are being terrorized where they live, it's just fine because social justice and all, but when it gets to close to home for them, then it's a problem and they'll go to the ends off the earth to punish and vilify those also just wanting to be heard.
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SGT Robert Wager
SGT Robert Wager
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Yet again, you have summarized my feelings better than I could. I happened to read this post again and found your comment
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SGT Robert Wager
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This question requires an actual definition of critical race theory.

Should our military universities teach the problems of race relations and slavery as it relates to history? Yes, is that history problematic? Yes. Should we teach any race to feel humiliated or guilty for the sins of their ancestors? No. We must stay vigilant to not repeat the mistakes our forefathers made. We should strive to achieve the dream of MLK and judge everyone by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.
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SGT Robert Wager
SGT Robert Wager
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PO3 Justin Bowen everything you just commented about is conjecture and opinion. What is “white nationalism”? I have no problem discussing race relations. What I won’t discuss is dog whistle political statements without actual hard facts.
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SGT Robert Wager
SGT Robert Wager
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SPC Jackie Blackman very true. Too many people get their information from partisan news sources like Fox News or MSNBC and don’t dig any deeper into an issue. They only want enough information to reinforce their core beliefs and never take a critical look at those core beliefs. I think we all should question what we believe and why we believe it. We all may find out that the “other” side of an issue isn’t totally wrong
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PO3 Justin Bowen
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CPL James S. "...and the current popularity of the idea that people should suffer social exclusion for their abhorrent actions."

There. Fixed that for you.

Freedom speech and freedom of association does not mean people should be free from legal consequences imposed by society.
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CPO James Walker
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Very well said SGT. I agree totally with this post.
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LTC Orlando Illi
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Why? What possible benefit would be gained by teaching a Marxist based theory predicated upon a questionable academic basis???
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PO2 Joe Crawford
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LTC Orlando Illi very well stated, coherent and on point to the conversation.
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CMSgt Randy Beck
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LCDR (Join to see) - Very well said sir! Too many people in the recent decades have tried to take the military out of the military and use is as some type of social experiment. I loved serving in uniform, at the end of my career though I was ready to depart as I could not be a part of what was happening with the lack of discipline and everyone questioning everything. How many military people in WWI, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf Wars were thinking about CRT and all the marxist propaganda BS that has now crept into everyday military life? Everyone then was focused on performing their job, completing the mission, and defeating the enemy as to preserve freedom at home so that crap would not infiltrate our daily lives. How can these modern day generals serve this nation if they don't even believe in preserving our history (no matter that it was good or bad)?
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SPC Robert McElreath
SPC Robert McElreath
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Kudos on all of the responses, Gentlemen. I don't think I saw any Ladies in there. If I missed you, apologies. My father grew up racist, in the deep south and, once struck a black man for failing to call him "Mr." After that same man lifted a car off him, after the jack had collapsed, he had an epiphany and abandoned his racist beliefs. When my mother was in nursing school, her black classmates were frequent guests in our home and my father was the epitome of the "Southern Gentleman", to them and all it took was a car falling on him and a very forgiving guy lifting it off. After that, if anyone else had given his rescuer a problem, they'd have had to fight my old man. Too bad it took that to get his head on straight, but it worked. my brother & I grew up in a non-racist household and I have never had a problem with any ethnicity that did not, first, have one with me. SO I can add my voice to the anti-crters. Equality of opportunity but not of outcome. "...Life, Liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness." No guaranteed outcome, just guaranteed opportunity. "Muster RIGHT Here, With Sgt. Mack" MSG Mack (Ret)
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SGT Cass Hill
SGT Cass Hill
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Ah yes, marxism.. one of the scary words you like to use to describe things you don't understand, don't know anything about, but are afraid of.

If you knew at all what Marxism was, then the first thing you'd learn about CRT is that it has nothing to do with Marxism, I'd say the most immediate benefit would be field grade officers wouldn't get caught making such foolish comments
The broader benefit would be teaching soldiers actual American historical instead of the whitewashed fairytale version of history that you prefer. Any good soldier should strive to know the facts of their own history, whether they like it or not
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